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Post by channonite on Feb 9, 2017 20:12:55 GMT
I have an issue with the press and some of the politicians. David Davis threatening the House of Lords if they go 'against the will of the people' was disgraceful. In fact, is there a more overused phrase at the moment than 'the will of the people'?!
Still, it was hilarious to hear this morning that Wikipedia has issued a blanket ban on The Daily Mail as a source. They cite several reasons, but the clincher is that they just make things up, but we already knew that, didn't we?!
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Post by theallseeingeye on Feb 9, 2017 20:15:40 GMT
I hate all this brexit stuff, and while I have my own point of view I have no issue with anyone voting out..or in for that matter if they had their own reasons. While I was disappointed I have huge issue with all this calling everyone names for their own views. We are leaving Europe and thats it, I know a lot of people that voted out and I get their reasons and they are not C.U.N.T.S.. I will fight and defend anyones views, if if they are not the same as mine. I think this division being created by the many of the people who wanted to stay is causing so much damage and unrest and wont end well. It might be a good thing.. you never know. Everything happens for a reason. Solid points, I can't agree with what the politicians did to cause it, nor the cackhanded way they're going about it but I won't insult (most of) the people who voted out for their decision, even if I can't beleive they fell for the bullshit. Can't agree with your final statement, though...it just doesn't add up. If the EU holds together, we're going to be a lot poorer; and if it doesn't, then things'll get far far worse. I did say it might be good.... and I'm not defending either side in this. I think the bu11shit sold to get the out vote was shocking, 100% agree.. However I was very disappointed with the people on the stay side too.. the whole thing was utter pants. We are where we are, ripping each other apart and causing a massive national divide is not going to help anyone or anything. Nothing wrong with be unhappy at the result and trying to force change, fighting for a cause etc....but we shouldn't be dragging this any lower than it already is. If and (it is an if) the sh1t really hits the fan...we can do something else, it hasn't yet, I'm worried too though. Just so bored of the whole thing and seeing many people say my point of view and opinion is better than yours and your stupid for not agreeing with me. It happens, I'm dealing with it and trust me, ive been bitten incredibly hard.. I lost a 500K European deal of ERASMUS funding days after the vote, funding I was told at a European meeting we had in the bag and were so planning and accounting for it. That would have been the biggest deal of my small companies history... bitter.. YEP! Am I blaming everyone and everything, no. It happened, I;m dealing with it and opening new doors.
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Post by OneBeat on Feb 9, 2017 20:17:35 GMT
"The will of half the people."
Lets get rid of all borders and live happily co-operating and sharing and putting people and the planet before selfishness and money.
Peace.
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Post by Furry Frank The Combat Wombat on Feb 9, 2017 20:21:54 GMT
I don't know anyone who voted to leave but that might be because I don't consort with C.U.N.T.S. How do you block C.U.N.T.S on here? My patience has worn thin I'm afraid. Steady on, Yates. I know these are upsetting times, but we don't want it to go all TUI here.
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Post by channonite on Feb 9, 2017 20:23:27 GMT
Solid points, I can't agree with what the politicians did to cause it, nor the cackhanded way they're going about it but I won't insult (most of) the people who voted out for their decision, even if I can't beleive they fell for the bullshit. Can't agree with your final statement, though...it just doesn't add up. If the EU holds together, we're going to be a lot poorer; and if it doesn't, then things'll get far far worse. I did say it might be good.... and I'm not defending either side in this. I think the bu11shit sold to get the out vote was shocking, 100% agree.. However I was very disappointed with the people on the stay side too.. the whole thing was utter pants. We are where we are, ripping each other apart and causing a massive national divide is not going to help anyone or anything. Nothing wrong with be unhappy at the result and trying to force change, fighting for a cause etc....but we shouldn't be dragging this any lower than it already is. If and (it is an if) the sh1t really hits the fan...we can do something else, it hasn't yet, I'm worried too though. Just so bored of the whole thing and seeing many people say my point of view and opinion is better than yours and your stupid for not agreeing with me. It happens, I'm dealing with it and trust me, ive been bitten incredibly hard.. I lost a 500K European deal of ERASMUS funding days after the vote, funding I was told at a European meeting we had in the bag and were so planning and accounting for it. That would have been the biggest deal of my small companies history... bitter.. YEP! Am I blaming everyone and everything, no. It happened, I;m dealing with it and opening new doors. Like all of this and all that I can find to take issue with is the dreadful Americanism - 'bored OF the whole thing'. The English translation is 'bored WITH the whole thing'. If we are to make a success of Brexit, then these are the sort of things that need to be stamped out.
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Post by StEtienne on Feb 9, 2017 21:04:37 GMT
I have an issue with the press and some of the politicians. David Davis threatening the House of Lords if they go 'against the will of the people' was disgraceful. In fact, is there a more overused phrase at the moment than 'the will of the people'?! Still, it was hilarious to hear this morning that Wikipedia has issued a blanket ban on The Daily Mail as a source. They cite several reasons, but the clincher is that they just make things up, but we already knew that, didn't we?! Yes. The irony is jaw droppingly funny. 'We want out of this undemocratic EU, British (English) democracy is at stake, give us our laws back' etc. Then take issue with the Law directly - it was a non binding referendum, closely run, of course it should be put before Parliament, that's the constitutional law you're so keen to be under!! Then threaten the Lords...with dissolution...you know, that very old check and balance that's part of UK democracy and Law! That threat could be seen as treasonous you odious little spunkbubble!! This post is in no way an indication of my vote or my thoughts on either side of the argument for or against Brexit. Just an observation of the hypocrisy of some of the swivel eyed loons fleecing this country.
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Post by Batts on Feb 9, 2017 21:09:44 GMT
"Will of the people". Never has a phrase been used so much but meant so little. None of the major parties are giving a second thought to the will of the people; they're all just doing whatever it takes to ingratiate themselves with a tranche of the electorate that are up for grabs now UKIP are irrelevant.
If politics were about the 'will of the people' then what the feck are these professional politicians paid so much to do? We pay them for their professional insight to protect the country's interests. NOT to simply carry out the will of the people. The phrase that SHOULD be thrown around so much is "the good of the country". But then, none of the politicians could give a shiny shite about that either. It's all about themselves and their own interests. As per fecking usual.
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Post by StEtienne on Feb 9, 2017 21:12:58 GMT
"Will of the people". Never has a phrase been used so much but meant so little. None of the major parties are giving a second thought to the will of the people; they're all just doing whatever it takes to ingratiate themselves with a tranche of the electorate that are up for grabs now UKIP are irrelevant. If politics were about the 'will of the people' then what the feck are these professional politicians paid so much to do? We pay them for their professional insight to protect the country's interests. NOT to simply carry out the will of the people. The phrase that SHOULD be thrown around so much is "the good of the country". But then, none of the politicians could give a shiny shite about that either. It's all about themselves and their own interests. As per fecking usual. Self serving low lives. They talk about public services needing reform, we'll start with you lot thanks. Lead by example, eh?!
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Post by Mandochris on Feb 9, 2017 21:16:28 GMT
Now now chaps. Let's calm down. Sadly I'm seeing this all over the place. Please not here, in this oasis of calm
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Post by Furry Frank The Combat Wombat on Feb 9, 2017 21:51:07 GMT
Solid points, I can't agree with what the politicians did to cause it, nor the cackhanded way they're going about it but I won't insult (most of) the people who voted out for their decision, even if I can't beleive they fell for the bullshit. Can't agree with your final statement, though...it just doesn't add up. If the EU holds together, we're going to be a lot poorer; and if it doesn't, then things'll get far far worse. I did say it might be good.... and I'm not defending either side in this. I think the bu11shit sold to get the out vote was shocking, 100% agree.. However I was very disappointed with the people on the stay side too.. the whole thing was utter pants. We are where we are, ripping each other apart and causing a massive national divide is not going to help anyone or anything. Nothing wrong with be unhappy at the result and trying to force change, fighting for a cause etc....but we shouldn't be dragging this any lower than it already is. If and (it is an if) the sh1t really hits the fan...we can do something else, it hasn't yet, I'm worried too though. Just so bored of the whole thing and seeing many people say my point of view and opinion is better than yours and your stupid for not agreeing with me. It happens, I'm dealing with it and trust me, ive been bitten incredibly hard.. I lost a 500K European deal of ERASMUS funding days after the vote, funding I was told at a European meeting we had in the bag and were so planning and accounting for it. That would have been the biggest deal of my small companies history... bitter.. YEP! Am I blaming everyone and everything, no. It happened, I;m dealing with it and opening new doors. Fair enough, I think we're singing from the same hymnsheet.. ..I just can't see any evidence that it might be good. Sorry to hear about the Eu deal.. I'm sure it's no consolation, but there's a whole lot more in that boat, from what I've heard.
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Post by theallseeingeye on Feb 9, 2017 22:17:51 GMT
I did say it might be good.... and I'm not defending either side in this. I think the bu11shit sold to get the out vote was shocking, 100% agree.. However I was very disappointed with the people on the stay side too.. the whole thing was utter pants. We are where we are, ripping each other apart and causing a massive national divide is not going to help anyone or anything. Nothing wrong with be unhappy at the result and trying to force change, fighting for a cause etc....but we shouldn't be dragging this any lower than it already is. If and (it is an if) the sh1t really hits the fan...we can do something else, it hasn't yet, I'm worried too though. Just so bored of the whole thing and seeing many people say my point of view and opinion is better than yours and your stupid for not agreeing with me. It happens, I'm dealing with it and trust me, ive been bitten incredibly hard.. I lost a 500K European deal of ERASMUS funding days after the vote, funding I was told at a European meeting we had in the bag and were so planning and accounting for it. That would have been the biggest deal of my small companies history... bitter.. YEP! Am I blaming everyone and everything, no. It happened, I;m dealing with it and opening new doors. Fair enough, I think we're singing from the same hymnsheet.. ..I just can't see any evidence that it might be good. Sorry to hear about the Eu deal.. I'm sure it's no consolation, but there's a whole lot more in that boat, from what I've heard. We normally do old bean....but if we ever don't.... thats cool too. And thanks...it was a gutter.
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Post by channonite on Feb 9, 2017 22:41:34 GMT
Now now chaps. Let's calm down. Sadly I'm seeing this all over the place. Please not here, in this oasis of calm I think the vast majority on here are calm Chris. At least with each other, it is just increasingly difficult to make out what the heck is actually going on. To give a footy related example, ManU were today trumpeting about how much their income has increased, which was covered in all the sports pages. Meanwhile, on the business pages, the analysts were talking about how their debt mountain has shot up, due to the effects of Brexit on the pound. Bad news beats good news in this case. But as it's ManU, I can hardly get worked up about it.
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Post by thewarlock on Feb 10, 2017 6:08:37 GMT
I don't know anyone who voted to leave but that might be because I don't consort with C.U.N.T.S. How do you block C.U.N.T.S on here? My patience has worn thin I'm afraid. Might be worth jumping ship yourself then, you are clearly in a bad place at present and sooner or later with that attitude you'll call the wrong person your favourite gutter name Out of interest lorenzo What are your reasons for being pro Brexit?
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Post by sotonian on Feb 10, 2017 7:35:46 GMT
Politics is not my Forte, I'm a simple person but I see you have 2 choices
Alternative 1/ people could just accept we're going out and together work out how to make it work in the best way possible
Alternative 2/ moan about it at every opertunity, be offensive to the people that voted out and try to be as criticle as possible to the changs that will have to be made
Life is too short, I'll go with alternative 1
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Post by arfurdent on Feb 10, 2017 8:18:46 GMT
I don't know anyone who voted to leave but that might be because I don't consort with C.U.N.T.S. How do you block C.U.N.T.S on here? My patience has worn thin I'm afraid. Steady on, Yates. I know these are upsetting times, but we don't want it to go all TUI here. a good TUI meltdown is always good for the blood pressure, brings out the best in people The government has no need to threaten the Lords with dissolution they will just invoke the Parliment Act
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