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Post by saintsfan73 on Jul 5, 2023 8:50:40 GMT
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Jul 5, 2023 9:19:23 GMT
Bloody hell. I wonder if he knows what the words he's saying actually mean.
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Post by spot51 on Jul 5, 2023 9:33:18 GMT
How about we shut this down?
I really don't want to see a guy I used to worship going batshit crazy.
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Post by OneBeat on Jul 5, 2023 12:04:06 GMT
Bloody hell. I wonder if he knows what the words he's saying actually mean. No one seems to know that communism. Marxism, Socialism or even Left-Wing means these days.
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Post by channonite on Jul 5, 2023 12:10:35 GMT
Bloody hell. I wonder if he knows what the words he's saying actually mean. No one seems to know that communism. Marxism, Socialism or even Left-Wing means these days. Or woke. A Scottish MP was saying last night that as far as she was concerned someone accusing her of being 'woke' simply meant that she wasn't an arse!!
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Post by threehundred on Jul 5, 2023 12:27:27 GMT
He’s right though…
Watch this and take note…
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Post by OneBeat on Jul 5, 2023 12:32:17 GMT
No one seems to know that communism. Marxism, Socialism or even Left-Wing means these days. Or WOKE. A Scottish MP was saying last night that as far as she was concerned someone accusing her of being 'WOKE' simply meant that she wasn't an arse!! Exactly. Kathy Burke said that she liked being Woke as it meant she wasn't a Cxxt.
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Post by yateleysaint on Jul 5, 2023 15:38:24 GMT
fecking brilliant! It’s about time! Where do I sign?
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Post by spot51 on Jul 5, 2023 18:20:05 GMT
fecking brilliant! It’s about time! Where do I sign? Not far from your old Gaff...
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Post by choixkoix on Jul 6, 2023 5:51:24 GMT
Particularly with the rate of social, cultural and technological change, we've never really had as complex a time to live in.
The old simple narratives politicians or schools of political thought relayed dont make much sense. Our politicians today have given up on trying to paint narratives for the safer ground of simple sloganeering, and the gap is one everybody sees through.
Its a time where the individual and how the individual feels are validated, and the tools for individual communication are more powerful than those of mass communication ; yet paradoxically there's an alienating nausea in hearing a constant stream of opinions and needing to decipher them.
In Western Europe, but especially the UK, we are living through a great contraction, the end of constant progress and growth and the realisation that we are becoming poorer, less fair, less significant. We all know that the middle class is shrinking and that working poverty has resurfaced as a norm. Yet liberal thought and the evolution of our sense of rights hasnt stopped; it bounds on. Calling someone 'woke' is essentially a cry for attentiom, a feeling of under-representation. Well, we're all underrepresented.
I dont think it's metastatised into a clear final form but I would argue we are reaching a point where the mass of people consciously or not reject the form of governance we have.
Rich soil for any old snakeskin oil seller with a simple anti establishment narrative. Take back control, anti 15 min cities, we need our sovereignity, 'they' are lying to us.. these are all more sexy ways to make sense of the world and our implicit alienation to what's in front of us than what I wrote in the first 5 paragraphs... But I'd wager those paragraphs are closer to the mark.
Human nature, we crave meaning and security. We've by accident or design made a 21st century lacking in both. Living in a washing machine of individualism and capitalism watching the colours run, holding on to the ridges in the tumbler.
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Post by yateleysaint on Jul 6, 2023 6:18:29 GMT
We’ve got a book in the library (that I haven’t read yet) called something like “How economists invented austerity and paved the way for fascism”.
That pretty much sums it all up for me.
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Post by Willshakes. on Jul 6, 2023 18:58:27 GMT
I could not agree more. Generations change with each generation. It's truly as simple as that.
My mother 86, went through the second World War. Bread and dripping, if your lucky, and the support of Friends and Family.Along with all the rest of it.
I went through a generation of "Eat what your given" Call on friends, go to the park, play football, build a den, kick a football in the street, Strikes and Power Cuts ETC.
Now, I have 2 daughters, aged 13 & 18. They have mobiles, TV'S, Guitars, etc in their rooms.etc
I believe theirs nothing any of us can do about it.
It is where we all are. Commercialism, politics and the World we're in. I guess we just have to accept that and live through it.
After all, that's LIFE !
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Post by OneBeat on Jul 6, 2023 19:21:09 GMT
On the plus side, we have plenty of stuff to write songs about.
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Post by yateleysaint on Jul 7, 2023 12:43:03 GMT
Can we stage an intervention?!
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Post by melrose on Jul 7, 2023 14:52:47 GMT
On the plus side, we have plenty of stuff to write songs about. Any happy, upbeat songs?
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