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Post by saintsfan73 on Jun 30, 2020 10:50:54 GMT
I see there is an article in the paper that MLT is considering refusing to wear a Black Lives Matter badge on tv anymore. His argument is that it is a political organisation with aims such as the abolishing of Capitalism and the de-funding of the Police rather than a group trying to bring about racial harmony.
I can see his point, but sadly in 2020 this will count for nothing and he will soon be sacked by Sky, lose all his media work and be viewed as a pariah from hereon in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 11:00:39 GMT
They wouldn't let poppies be worn a while ago - as that was considered too 'political'.
It's all rather silly and blatant virtue signalling; it seems that a lot of people are too intimidated to call it out for what it is. Will we have to wear compulsory slogans about saving the whales, fighting climate change and not treading on ants next? You may end up looking like a boy scout with multiple badges but you won't need to be scared of people thinking that you are a thought-criminal.
I'd post a rather good Jonathan Pie.com video about it but I can't be arsed.
As I've said many times before, I despair of my fellow man sometimes.
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Post by Mandochris on Jun 30, 2020 11:40:33 GMT
Sadly, having seen many of Matt's posts, he does tend to miss the point on many subjects when it's not football related. Not a big picture guy.
As someone recently said (MLK's son or Colin Kapernick or someone like that), saying Black Lives Matter doesn't mean White lives don't matter. It means Black Lives matter TOO.
Defunding police actually means re-thinking how you fund communities. Why are the police called with guns and full riot gear for a mental health issue? Etc.
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Jun 30, 2020 12:13:08 GMT
They say never meet your heroes and MLT is an example of that if Twitter is anything to go on. He's confusing the org BLM with the statement BLM... admittedly it is confusing, but if I was in such a public position I'd check before making statements
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Post by jickster on Jun 30, 2020 12:30:32 GMT
I had to unfollow him on Twitter a while back. I think he enjoys being a bit of a contrarian, or perhaps likes trolling people, but whenever he gets into politics he tries to come at it from a 'no agenda, just asking common sense questions' perspective, but often ends up looking like an uninformed bloke down the pub. For example, I can't remember exactly what he said, but at the start of the pandemic he was into claiming that it was no worse than regular flu and also was linking to the 5G conspiracy theorists.
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Post by meatball on Jun 30, 2020 13:10:15 GMT
They say never meet your heroes and MLT is an example of that if Twitter is anything to go on. He's confusing the org BLM with the statement BLM... admittedly it is confusing, but if I was in such a public position I'd check before making statements I can assure you that meeting MLT will do nothing but increase your love for the man. I had the pleasure of being at a table with him at a function at Salisbury FC, he was an utter gent throughout, even though he was sandwiched between my brother and my brother in law, who, as they are both utterly in love with him, spent the whole night asking him question after question. He is warm, welcoming, unassuming and very, very funny. I too follow him on twitter, and while I sometimes grimace a little at his ramblings, I don't believe any of it comes from a place of hate. He likes to question the masses and doesn't treat every issue like hot coal. I don't agree with everything he writes on their, but ain't that just the problem with social media these days. People you think you know will suddenly come out with some grotesque comment that makes you reevaluate your opinion of them. I have people I have been friends with for years spouting utter tripe on Facebook that you just have to do your best to ignore. My position is that if I don't know enough on the subject, then I most certainly do not want to publicly talk about it. The people who do are either misinformed and speaking from their gut, or genuinely are on the extremes of either the left or the right. If one had to label MLT, I would put him centre right, he's no bigot as far as I can see, and I believe he has some valid concerns about the BLM movement. |
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Jun 30, 2020 14:11:46 GMT
They say never meet your heroes and MLT is an example of that if Twitter is anything to go on. He's confusing the org BLM with the statement BLM... admittedly it is confusing, but if I was in such a public position I'd check before making statements I can assure you that meeting MLT will do nothing but increase your love for the man. I had the pleasure of being at a table with him at a function at Salisbury FC, he was an utter gent throughout, even though he was sandwiched between my brother and my brother in law, who, as they are both utterly in love with him, spent the whole night asking him question after question. He is warm, welcoming, unassuming and very, very funny. I too follow him on twitter, and while I sometimes grimace a little at his ramblings, I don't believe any of it comes from a place of hate. He likes to question the masses and doesn't treat every issue like hot coal. I don't agree with everything he writes on their, but ain't that just the problem with social media these days. People you think you know will suddenly come out with some grotesque comment that makes you reevaluate your opinion of them. I have people I have been friends with for years spouting utter tripe on Facebook that you just have to do your best to ignore. My position is that if I don't know enough on the subject, then I most certainly do not want to publicly talk about it. The people who do are either misinformed and speaking from their gut, or genuinely are on the extremes of either the left or the right. If one had to label MLT, I would put him centre right, he's no bigot as far as I can see, and I believe he has some valid concerns about the BLM movement. I'm sure that's all correct. I've actually met him a number of times over the years, but not for a very long time. Jason Dodd's ex wife is friends with my wife and so we've been at some social things together. Weirdly at those types of things political views etc don't tend to get discussed. I think MLT is very much coming from a position of questioning rather than imposing his views. I think the difficulty for BLM is the message and the organisation are being confused... a political organisation has taken the name of what started, a few years ago, as a statement about the value of life. MLT is right to question why he should have to wear a badge that is the name of a political org, but that isn't what he's being asked to do and he doesn't appear to understand that |
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Post by Mandochris on Jun 30, 2020 15:31:23 GMT
They say never meet your heroes and MLT is an example of that if Twitter is anything to go on. He's confusing the org BLM with the statement BLM... admittedly it is confusing, but if I was in such a public position I'd check before making statements I can assure you that meeting MLT will do nothing but increase your love for the man. I had the pleasure of being at a table with him at a function at Salisbury FC, he was an utter gent throughout, even though he was sandwiched between my brother and my brother in law, who, as they are both utterly in love with him, spent the whole night asking him question after question. He is warm, welcoming, unassuming and very, very funny. I too follow him on twitter, and while I sometimes grimace a little at his ramblings, I don't believe any of it comes from a place of hate. He likes to question the masses and doesn't treat every issue like hot coal. I don't agree with everything he writes on their, but ain't that just the problem with social media these days. People you think you know will suddenly come out with some grotesque comment that makes you reevaluate your opinion of them. I have people I have been friends with for years spouting utter tripe on Facebook that you just have to do your best to ignore. My position is that if I don't know enough on the subject, then I most certainly do not want to publicly talk about it. The people who do are either misinformed and speaking from their gut, or genuinely are on the extremes of either the left or the right. If one had to label MLT, I would put him centre right, he's no bigot as far as I can see, and I believe he has some valid concerns about the BLM movement. Very much this. I enjoy much of what he says, especially on VAR and other footie related talking points. Brexit is also not his strong suit but I would never hold it against him. He's too nice a bloke. |
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Post by theallseeingeye on Jun 30, 2020 15:44:05 GMT
I defend his right to be wrong..and don;t agree with a lot of his views, but they are his views and hes a decent bloke.
While there is much that has to be done for the BLM movement, it seems that free speech is on its arse.
People of the UK seem to think we have the same issues as America, and we don't, they are messed up beyond belief.
Guns are a massive part of the problem too, trigger happy cops is a terrifying thing.
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Post by channonite on Jun 30, 2020 16:22:48 GMT
It was only in a discussion with a right wing friend today that I learned that BLM is a Marxist political movement. Well, that was news to me.  |
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Post by Mandochris on Jun 30, 2020 19:52:25 GMT
Have any of you guys seen the movie BlacKkKlansman?
Excellent and right on point at this time.
Highly recommended.
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MLT/BLM
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Post by Willshakes. on Jun 30, 2020 20:25:08 GMT
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Post by ivangolac on Jun 30, 2020 22:51:55 GMT
BlackKKlansman is a brilliant film
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Post by orde on Jul 1, 2020 0:22:12 GMT
Thinking Black Lives Matter is a political organization rather than an organic groundswell movement is the first mistake
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Post by saintsfan73 on Jul 1, 2020 8:13:38 GMT
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