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Post by Willshakes. on Jul 14, 2021 19:30:37 GMT
Evening. An entertaining thread, which I have no intention of locking. It demonstrates in a microcosm how split this country still is. Brexit is over, a cause lost - worse luck, but the underlying issues remain. IMHO the problem was and still is populist politics. It's the reason that organisations are in a flat spin about what to do next week, all because some politicians simply don't want to make an unpopular decision. Simply an abdication of responsibility. Pathetic. Could not agree more. Bureaucracy is rife in Westminster. Regardless of which seat you're on. Everything is PR. No questions answered with a firm opinion. Society in the UK is changing. I know we have to accept that. We just have to have the majority believe it . It's a long journey. We've taken a few steps. There's many more to go.
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Post by saintsfan73 on Jul 14, 2021 19:47:58 GMT
WALOB. Stopping Brexit? I think the war's over. no, I phrased this poorly… Even I don't think you can stop Brexit now… That ship has sailed (and left us all alone on this island with you fecking weirdos) I meant "racism", I just wrote the sentence badly I apologise if you were confused Why do you think I was pro-Brexit? I wasn't. I've always said it wouldn't be a good thing but prefer just to get on with things as the effect on my life is minimal and I can't be arsed with the hysterical over reactions to it which still continue apace for some.
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Post by saintpaddy on Jul 14, 2021 20:13:24 GMT
The very reason why I will not sign the protest as it stands is reflected in the above statements. To get rid of racism you need to change minds and signing protests on this will have zero effects. You may very well silence the outbursts or send them underground but you will not end the mindset. Unfortunately right wing politicians have got fertile soil to work on and they have and will and this present government is possibly the worst we have had. I had a day up in London today and the protests against Brexit is still going on in front of the Houses of Parliament. It has been the political will in this country to have an underclass and to our shame we have. Pay poor and educate badly is and has been a political policy in this country as long as I have lived here. That is the reason why it was political will to see heavy industry got rid of and replaced with a service industry. I will leave it there.
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Post by channonite on Jul 15, 2021 6:56:54 GMT
The very reason why I will not sign the protest as it stands is reflected in the above statements. To get rid of racism you need to change minds and signing protests on this will have zero effects. You may very well silence the outbursts or send them underground but you will not end the mindset. Unfortunately right wing politicians have got fertile soil to work on and they have and will and this present government is possibly the worst we have had. I had a day up in London today and the protests against Brexit is still going on in front of the Houses of Parliament. It has been the political will in this country to have an underclass and to our shame we have. Pay poor and educate badly is and has been a political policy in this country as long as I have lived here. That is the reason why it was political will to see heavy industry got rid of and replaced with a service industry. I will leave it there. I agree with your main points completely, but it is incumbent on us to push back against this behaviour, if not the mindset, as we have little chance of changing that. We can however send a message that the behaviour is simply not acceptable.
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Post by Mandochris on Jul 15, 2021 7:41:11 GMT
Like bees to honey. Or should that be flies to a...... Still as charming as ever, I see.
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Post by saintsfan73 on Jul 15, 2021 8:22:41 GMT
Like bees to honey. Or should that be flies to a...... Still as charming as ever, I see. Funny, I thought you were always saying you had me on ignore!! Fake news again eh??
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Post by saintpaddy on Jul 15, 2021 9:04:58 GMT
theconversation.com/100-years-ago-african-americans-marched-down-5th-avenue-to-declare-that-black-lives-matter-81427100 years and not much has changed and this concerns only black racism there is plenty more. Brexit has been about stopping white people coming here unless you have money. It is still possible for someone with plenty of money to buy British Citizenship irrespective of the type of individual you are. Take a stroll around London and have a look at the empty buildings in the richest parts and you will get a glimmer of what I am on about. If we want to stamp out racism then the lead must come from the top and that's not going to happen. We have a politician who's father stood in an election for UKIP so not much more to say about that.
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Post by Mandochris on Jul 15, 2021 9:16:55 GMT
Still as charming as ever, I see. Funny, I thought you were always saying you had me on ignore!! Fake news again eh?? When I log out I see everything. Your signature is an example of just 2 people (I am a 3rd) you have successfully chased from this board. There are others. I shall not log out again.
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Post by saintsfan73 on Jul 15, 2021 9:21:50 GMT
Funny, I thought you were always saying you had me on ignore!! Fake news again eh?? When I log out I see everything. Your signature is an example of just 2 people (I am a 3rd) you have successfully chased from this board. There are others. I shall not log out again. Yes of course that's it! That explains it perfectly. So you logged out but came back on here, saw my post and had to reply. So you logged back on. But then my post would not appear as I am on ignore. So you would have had to remove me from ignore and then reply to my post (and then presumably put me back on ignore afterwards?). Sounds very complicated. And all just to reply to someone you keep claiming you have on ignore. You seem to be tying yourself in knots old boy.
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Post by channonite on Jul 15, 2021 16:43:52 GMT
When I log out I see everything. Your signature is an example of just 2 people (I am a 3rd) you have successfully chased from this board. There are others. I shall not log out again. Yes of course that's it! That explains it perfectly. So you logged out but came back on here, saw my post and had to reply. So you logged back on. But then my post would not appear as I am on ignore. So you would have had to remove me from ignore and then reply to my post (and then presumably put me back on ignore afterwards?). Sounds very complicated. And all just to reply to someone you keep claiming you have on ignore. You seem to be tying yourself in knots old boy. Oh for goodness sake, give it a rest, your constant baiting is just plain boring.
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Post by Willshakes. on Jul 15, 2021 18:00:28 GMT
Yes of course that's it! That explains it perfectly. So you logged out but came back on here, saw my post and had to reply. So you logged back on. But then my post would not appear as I am on ignore. So you would have had to remove me from ignore and then reply to my post (and then presumably put me back on ignore afterwards?). Sounds very complicated. And all just to reply to someone you keep claiming you have on ignore. You seem to be tying yourself in knots old boy. Oh for goodness sake, give it a rest, your constant baiting is just plain boring. SF73 -If you wish to bait then why not go elsewhere ? The fact you're on ignore is for a reason. This is the internet. This is a forum. Post Hidden gives anyone the option to click if they wish. Your words; "It's just a forum". In which case go to another Saints "Forum". The choice seems pretty simple. If you have a problem with that then why not PM me. I've asked before to no avail. I will be civil however you seem to have an antagonistic trait that has led to many putting you on ignore and many others leaving this forum. The choice is yours. I look forward to your reply.
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Post by saintpaddy on Jul 15, 2021 19:04:33 GMT
Oh for goodness sake, give it a rest, your constant baiting is just plain boring. SF73 -If you wish to bait then why not go elsewhere ? The fact you're on ignore is for a reason. This is the internet. This is a forum. Post Hidden gives anyone the option to click if they wish. Your words; "It's just a forum". In which case go to another Saints "Forum". The choice seems pretty simple. If you have a problem with that then why not PM me. I've asked before to no avail. I will be civil however you seem to have an antagonistic trait that has led to many putting you on ignore and many others leaving this forum. The choice is yours. I look forward to your reply. This could be a first rate forum were it not for one person who surprisingly seems to have a lot of support on here. Truly I cannot understand why expulsion has not been used by now as his sole intent seems to be to start a row with people.
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Post by saintsfan73 on Jul 15, 2021 20:00:26 GMT
SF73 -If you wish to bait then why not go elsewhere ? The fact you're on ignore is for a reason. This is the internet. This is a forum. Post Hidden gives anyone the option to click if they wish. Your words; "It's just a forum". In which case go to another Saints "Forum". The choice seems pretty simple. If you have a problem with that then why not PM me. I've asked before to no avail. I will be civil however you seem to have an antagonistic trait that has led to many putting you on ignore and many others leaving this forum. The choice is yours. I look forward to your reply. This could be a first rate forum were it not for one person who surprisingly seems to have a lot of support on here. Truly I cannot understand why expulsion has not been used by now as his sole intent seems to be to start a row with people. That’s a bit harsh on Spot tbf.
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Post by saintpaddy on Jul 15, 2021 20:20:55 GMT
This could be a first rate forum were it not for one person who surprisingly seems to have a lot of support on here. Truly I cannot understand why expulsion has not been used by now as his sole intent seems to be to start a row with people. That’s a bit harsh on Spot tbf. Not even got a looking glass? ?
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Post by Willshakes. on Jul 16, 2021 6:13:33 GMT
That’s a bit harsh on Spot tbf. Not even got a looking glass? ? A troll ; 2 : a person who intentionally antagonizes others online by posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content =SF73
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