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Post by shirleymush on Apr 11, 2011 19:09:39 GMT
Go on then, which English players outside the PL are better than him? You're not allowed anyone on loan from PL clubs either. I honestly can't think of a single one apart from Sinclair. what difference does the nationality of a player make? (Anyway, I don't believe that was part of the original comment) As long as you're not being anal about people who can dribble but being specific about pivotal importance and ability to play at a higher level then how about this lot: Adel Taarabt (this guy is better than Lala in every aspect of his play apart from, possibly and only possibly, effort) Grant Holt Nicky Maynard Peter Whittingham Jay Bothroyd the aforementioned Sinclair, I agree he's very good Jimmy Kebe Schmeichel, Howson, Snodgrass, O Brien & Becchio all at Leeds that's just a few players at some teams in the championship, I'm not interested in subjective appreciation of somebody's dribbling ability, this is all about quality and worth to the team (any team). I might give you Whittingham. That's it though.
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Post by THE BEAST on Apr 11, 2011 19:14:34 GMT
what difference does the nationality of a player make? (Anyway, I don't believe that was part of the original comment) As long as you're not being anal about people who can dribble but being specific about pivotal importance and ability to play at a higher level then how about this lot: Adel Taarabt (this guy is better than Lala in every aspect of his play apart from, possibly and only possibly, effort) Grant Holt Nicky Maynard Peter Whittingham Jay Bothroyd the aforementioned Sinclair, I agree he's very good Jimmy Kebe Schmeichel, Howson, Snodgrass, O Brien & Becchio all at Leeds that's just a few players at some teams in the championship, I'm not interested in subjective appreciation of somebody's dribbling ability, this is all about quality and worth to the team (any team). I might give you Whittingham. That's it though. I thought Kebe might be pushing it a bit but you really wouldn't take the others? Football fans are peculiar…
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Post by shirleymush on Apr 11, 2011 20:59:01 GMT
I might give you Whittingham. That's it though. I thought Kebe might be pushing it a bit but you really wouldn't take the others? Football fans are peculiar… I honestly wouldn't. I'm not generally biased about Saints players either. I don't think we've got any other players anywhere near as good as him. In fact I don't think we've had any since Theo. There were plenty of players in our team when we were doing well in the PL who weren't fit to lace Adam's boots, IMHO.
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Post by shirleymush on Apr 12, 2011 13:11:53 GMT
Anyone travelling up to Rochdale at the moment- there's a big snarl-up on the M6.
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Post by THE BEAST on Apr 12, 2011 13:27:27 GMT
Anyone travelling up to Rochdale at the moment- there's a big snarl-up on the M6. How many people do you know with in-car Internet? You obviously circulate with far more technically endowed people than us I think?
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Post by Mandochris on Apr 12, 2011 13:31:30 GMT
Anyone travelling up to Rochdale at the moment- there's a big snarl-up on the M6. How many people do you know with in-car Internet? You obviously circulate with far more technically endowed people than us I think? Yately and Channers at least have iphone proboards. Shirls too, I believe.
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Post by THE BEAST on Apr 12, 2011 13:35:00 GMT
How many people do you know with in-car Internet? You obviously circulate with far more technically endowed people than us I think? Yately and Channers at least have iphone proboards. Shirls too, I believe. Good point, I apologise unreservedly to Shirley who does indeed have copious amounts of technical superiority to my good self amongst others.
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Post by channonite on Apr 12, 2011 19:31:40 GMT
Not one of our better games then. Losing 2-0 at 40 minutes.
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Post by shirleymush on Apr 12, 2011 21:25:21 GMT
Cathartic, post-match anti-Adkins rant. Please feel free to disregard as sour grapes in the midst of a 12 hour round trip...
This Adkins bloke is a fecking dickhead. I know that sounds odd when we're second in the league, but we're there because we've got the best squad. He insists on playing this stupid midfield diamond which means we can't double up on opposition wide players, meaning we have to deal with cross after cross because there's no pressure on the ball. He almost invariably ends up going 4-4-2 when it inevitably doesn't work anyway, so why play that way in the first fecking place?
Week in, week out he starts with the same ineffective system, and every time he ends up changing it because it's not working. On Saturday we got lucky, tonight we got found out. Harding was taken off directly after their second goal. Great management Nige- why start the dumb motherfucker in the first place when his arse had clearly gone?
Anyway, rant over. Roll on Saturday.
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Post by Mandochris on Apr 13, 2011 5:25:51 GMT
It had to be said SM. Merrington, long before the game, commented on the wide pitch at Spotlands and suggested that we should go 442 because we would be outflanked if we played the diamond. After 5 minutes, he was saying that we were being bi-passed down the wings. Clearly Adkins got this one wrong and changed it too late.
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Post by reddish on Apr 13, 2011 6:43:02 GMT
The diamond has been found wanting in a number of games recently and we have had to amend our tactics and playing style halfway through a game.
We either haven't got the right players to play it, or he can't get across what he really wants from those players.
I have no idea why he persists with giving it a go on such a regular basis.
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Post by Mandochris on Apr 13, 2011 7:16:44 GMT
The diamond has been found wanting in a number of games recently and we have had to amend our tactics and playing style halfway through a game. We either haven't got the right players to play it, or he can't get across what he really wants from those players. I have no idea why he persists with giving it a go on such a regular basis. ... And at such a critical point in time.
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Post by Furry Frank The Combat Wombat on Apr 13, 2011 8:12:41 GMT
Cathartic, post-match anti-Adkins rant. Please feel free to disregard as sour grapes in the midst of a 12 hour round trip... This Adkins bloke is a fecking dickhead. I know that sounds odd when we're second in the league, but we're there because we've got the best squad. He insists on playing this stupid midfield diamond which means we can't double up on opposition wide players, meaning we have to deal with cross after cross because there's no pressure on the ball. He almost invariably ends up going 4-4-2 when it inevitably doesn't work anyway, so why play that way in the first fecking place? Week in, week out he starts with the same ineffective system, and every time he ends up changing it because it's not working. On Saturday we got lucky, tonight we got found out. Harding was taken off directly after their second goal. Great management Nige- why start the dumb motherfucker in the first place when his arse had clearly gone? Anyway, rant over. Roll on Saturday. Ere ere...despite the result, we spent much of last game screaming/head in hands at lack of width / hoofing issue...and about the only 2 times we did get it wide up their end, we scored! Same goes defensively, but fortunately the lino/LO strikers saved us on that occasion, clearly not last night. tittytittytitwank!
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Post by spot51 on Apr 13, 2011 9:29:04 GMT
The diamond has been found wanting in a number of games recently and we have had to amend our tactics and playing style halfway through a game. We either haven't got the right players to play it, or he can't get across what he really wants from those players. I have no idea why he persists with giving it a go on such a regular basis. Think we suffer from having one of the more cerebral managers. Adkins considers himself a student of the game, is always open to new ideas and happy to experiment. None of those things are necessarily bad but they need to be allied to a pragmatism that ensures the right things are done at the right time. In this respect our Nige is still learning. Football is a pretty simple game, played by some pretty simple folk. But even a dullard knows that when you find something that works, you keep doing it until such time as it no longer works. Then you find another solution. What you don't do is find solutions to problems you don't have FFS!
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Post by Mandochris on Apr 13, 2011 10:03:28 GMT
Very good, Spot. As I once heard, today's problems were yesterday's solutions.
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