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Post by crazydanny on Jul 15, 2023 6:13:03 GMT
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Post by choixkoix on Jul 15, 2023 6:45:35 GMT
Oh christ, not Rickie.
With him on the corruption in this government and illegitimacy of a govt 2 PMs removed from what was elected.. But 😠at the love in with Bridgen and Le Tiss.
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Post by emsworthsaint on Jul 15, 2023 7:29:33 GMT
Maybe we should retire the No 7 shirt - I'm not looking forward to Shane Long's dive into Creationism and Flat Earth theories.....
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Post by saintsfan73 on Jul 15, 2023 7:37:39 GMT
It’s the new ice bucket challenge for nutters.
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Post by OneBeat on Jul 15, 2023 7:56:19 GMT
Stop it, stop it, stop it.
If anyone finds one of these things from Nick Holmes please keep it to yourself.
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Jul 15, 2023 8:59:19 GMT
You'll notice that many of the high profile people in this box of frogs are middle aged men who've had some success and I guess are now struggling with the fact the world doesn't need them so much anymore. It must be bloody awful to have happen and it could happen to any of us, but rather than looking at themselves and finding a new useful they're blaming everyone else.
That said this govt is the worst I've ever known, but there's no global master plan for a new world order whatever the feck that is supposed to be.
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Post by threehundred on Jul 15, 2023 10:21:38 GMT
It’s in the water…
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Jul 15, 2023 10:31:06 GMT
Hahhaaaaa what language does water speak? |
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Post by melrose on Jul 15, 2023 13:00:23 GMT
Its what you get for skinny dipping off the Weston Shore with your mouth open.
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Post by sotonian on Jul 19, 2023 7:11:29 GMT
I could gain to be the tinfoil hat man on the site,
But I do think Tiss and Rickie have too much time on their hands is my take on it
I was and probably still am a covid Sceptic, my thoughts were that it was a massive over reaction, yes covid existed as a nasty strain of flu, but what I didn’t like and couldn’t understand that the mainstream news never ever showed a fair balance of opinions, if anything anti the narrative was put on social media it was immediately taken down
I worked right through the lockdowns (I was allowed to as we looked after a lot of NHS vehicles), when the first lockdown came as with many others I was scared, then after a couple of weeks of speaking to ambulance men, doctors and nurses, I realised we were being lied to, we were shown on the news that hospitals were bulging at the seams and unable to cope, this was a lie.I had nhs workers telling me that hospitals weee ghost towns, I had nurses telling me they spent their days playing candycrush ambulance people were telling me they hadn’t been called out for days
We were told to follow the science, we were told to wear masks to stop the spread which when you think of the size of virus particles and the size of the holes in the masks, it was like putting up chicken wire to stop flys getting into your garden, you had to wear these masks when walking into a pub or Restuarant you had to wear these masks but once you were sat down you were allowed to take them off, what kind of sense was there in that?
Businesses were going bust, people were denied having essential medical treatment, deceases like cancer etc were not being diagnosed at an early stage
When the experimental vaccine came in I thought I’d wait just to see, interestingly 180,000 nhs workers were prepared to lose there jobs rather than take the vaccine,
Then the results started to come through, we learnt that even with the vaccine you could still get and transmit covid, the average age of covid deaths without underlying symptoms was 88, younger healthy people were in danger of getting Myocarditis directly from the vaccine, we saw sportsmen around the world collapsing at a rate that had never been seen before, at the end of it all it was personal choice, I chose not have the vaccine, I appreciate most people chose to take it, some people only took it to have a holiday, seems nuts to me as it was easy enough to get round travel restrictions without the experimental vaccine but everyone to their own
Enough of that I could go on for ages, back to my point, when you start trying to research for information (as it’s not being reported) you end up going down all sorts of rabbit holes and start to discover a lot of other things, which I’d admit a lot is probably crap, and it’s best at that point to stop digging,
Tiss and Rickie have gone too far
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Post by saintsfan73 on Jul 19, 2023 8:54:10 GMT
I was and probably still am a covid Sceptic, my thoughts were that it was a massive over reaction, yes covid existed as a nasty strain of flu, To paraphrase spot51 WALOB. I know what you are trying to say but covid was not flu. The thing about is was it divided the world into two. Those young and healthy who at worst would get flu symptoms, at best would not even know they had it and on the other side those elderly and with pre-existing medical conditions to whom it was pretty a certain death sentence. Yes lockdowns may have been over reaction but the world was dealing with something it was ill prepared for. Logically a targeted lockdown would have been sensible where only those in households with elderly/unwell people or who came in contact with those who were would be locked down but hindsight is 20/20. The vaccine did a great job of getting us back to we are now. Again, maybe a targeted approach would have been better where young and healthy people didn't need it would have worked just as well. Also, it disingenuous to refer to it as 'experimental'. The vaccine went through as much testing as the polio, mmr, etc ones did. It was just done in a much shorter time period. I don't get the issues with mask wearing. Was it really that much of a hassle when covid was at its worse. Of course they work to some extent. People in the China/Japan have been wearing them for decades when having a cold as a common courtesy to others. If they don't work why does every person in an operating theatre have to wear them? |
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Post by OneBeat on Jul 19, 2023 9:04:42 GMT
What I don't understand, when people suggest that Covid was exaggerated, is what was the point of doing that? What did governments all over the world gain from doing that?
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Jul 19, 2023 9:16:50 GMT
I could gain to be the tinfoil hat man on the site, But I do think Tiss and Rickie have too much time on their hands is my take on it I was and probably still am a covid Sceptic, my thoughts were that it was a massive over reaction, yes covid existed as a nasty strain of flu, but what I didn’t like and couldn’t understand that the mainstream news never ever showed a fair balance of opinions, if anything anti the narrative was put on social media it was immediately taken down I worked right through the lockdowns (I was allowed to as we looked after a lot of NHS vehicles), when the first lockdown came as with many others I was scared, then after a couple of weeks of speaking to ambulance men, doctors and nurses, I realised we were being lied to, we were shown on the news that hospitals were bulging at the seams and unable to cope, this was a lie.I had nhs workers telling me that hospitals weee ghost towns, I had nurses telling me they spent their days playing candycrush ambulance people were telling me they hadn’t been called out for days We were told to follow the science, we were told to wear masks to stop the spread which when you think of the size of virus particles and the size of the holes in the masks, it was like putting up chicken wire to stop flys getting into your garden, you had to wear these masks when walking into a pub or Restuarant you had to wear these masks but once you were sat down you were allowed to take them off, what kind of sense was there in that? Businesses were going bust, people were denied having essential medical treatment, deceases like cancer etc were not being diagnosed at an early stage When the experimental vaccine came in I thought I’d wait just to see, interestingly 180,000 nhs workers were prepared to lose there jobs rather than take the vaccine, Then the results started to come through, we learnt that even with the vaccine you could still get and transmit covid, the average age of covid deaths without underlying symptoms was 88, younger healthy people were in danger of getting Myocarditis directly from the vaccine, we saw sportsmen around the world collapsing at a rate that had never been seen before, at the end of it all it was personal choice, I chose not have the vaccine, I appreciate most people chose to take it, some people only took it to have a holiday, seems nuts to me as it was easy enough to get round travel restrictions without the experimental vaccine but everyone to their own Enough of that I could go on for ages, back to my point, when you start trying to research for information (as it’s not being reported) you end up going down all sorts of rabbit holes and start to discover a lot of other things, which I’d admit a lot is probably crap, and it’s best at that point to stop digging, Tiss and Rickie have gone too far Not wishing to reignite a covid argument because thank feck that bollox is behind us now. But, following the science is exactly what happened. Science is about using pre existing knowledge to experiment to find a solution. The thing with a new pandemic is it means you have to do the Science whilst it's happening. Therefore masks, social distancing, lockdowns all thrown into the mix and then had the throttle taken off as we learnt more about what we were dealing with. Did it go on too long and cause more harm than good, probably but it was an unprecedented threat so caution was needed initially. Also it's bollcoks to say it only impact the old most harshly. I've had it twice at least and barely knew I had it, I know younger guys than me that ended up on ventilators, thar was what was scary about it. It didn't seem to have a pattern for who it hit. As for experimental vaccine, in so much as all vaccines are always tweaked yes they all could be considered "experimental" but in terms of testing and approvals it has been through as much as everything else |
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Post by THE BEAST on Jul 19, 2023 9:18:48 GMT
well I knew people that died from Covid, some of them not apparently older or disabled… It killed indiscriminately, it killed hundreds of thousands of people, how anyone can say They are "sceptical" about it beggars belief. as for assuming everyone in the NHS knows everything about everything that goes on with healthcare and therefore are giving you accurate enough information to base life or death decisions (let's just pretend for a minute you don't matter… How about the people you kill when you give them Covid because you don't give a shit about other people?) or are, themselves, not just as "tinfoil hat" as other people from other walks of life… Well… it's just a nonsense ask orde about what he saw and the scars he has from this… |
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Post by Mandochris on Jul 19, 2023 9:19:32 GMT
What I don't understand, when people suggest that Covid was exaggerated, is what was the point of doing that? What did governments all over the world gain from doing that? And how did they manage to get this worldwide conspiracy going without anybody, except all the people working in government, global health and research labs, knowing about it before it came? Certain parts of hospitals were overrun, clearly. Other parts, where non urgent cases were postponed, may well have been quieter than usual (I don't know). |
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