Post by researchersaint on Sept 19, 2023 13:21:12 GMT
Hi, I've written about Martin's philosophy and used examples from the Leicester game to ask if the juice is worth the squeeze when it comes to his tactics? With the squad we have, would we be better off playing a more simplistic way? Would love to know what you think!
The answer is no. He was hired to play this type of football. Maybe he’s a bit radical, but we’ve only just started. It would be nice though if he could stop us conceding so many goals. He used to be a defender so that shouldn’t be too hard.
Post by Furry Frank The Combat Wombat on Sept 25, 2023 10:13:50 GMT
The sad thing is, I think he has in the last couple of games with us sitting a bit deeper, dropping the inverted fullbacks and then playing our 3 slightly more defensive CMs last game... but it still hasn't worked.
I'm not saying there's no problem with the system, but it feels like it's more a problem with the players and leadership again. Unfortunately now the window's closed, there's not much they can do to fix that.
We need to stop this fecking around and tighten the feck up. Play 451, you can do that progressively with players like Edozie and Kala as the wide 5’s. Play significantly further up the pitch and start squeezing and pressing the opposition in their half.
It’s a different sport but I was struck by this last night….under Gatland Wales rugby have changed mantra. “We play zero rugby in our half, we play expansively in the opposition half”
He has tweaked already - we've sat lower down the pitch in the last 2 matches. The inverted full backs also did less inverting.
He's also tried what he might consider a plan B already - the second half vs Leicester where an overloaded-in-attack version of us tried to get the ball into last third quicker.
Its a very simplistic thing to 'compromise on his tactics'. We think he's gonna go Nathan Jones-ball?
He's shown in the last 2 matches that he's prepared to emphasise more solidity and less risk. That was necessary and it hasnt worked but I would proffer thats due to how low the confidence is and how tight the margins are when the team is firing on just one cylinder (and where our attack is Che & AdamA.)
At this point, each day of training will slowly bottom us out and build us back to somewhere where we might win a football match (and be a day closer to a proper striker being in our starting line-up). I would say, keep with the current adjustments and pls lord train our midfield and attack on viable ways to attack through the middle.
But Leeds will be too stern a test too soon.
I fear another crucial thing to be trained - how to discern when to play from the back and when to boot it - isnt going to make the top of the to-do list... Theres too much that needs addresssing at present.
Practically speaking, he needs more time for all the detail on the desired way of playing to be put across. Too much needs to be worked on. It's clearly not an overnight job when we are this fragile. He isnt going to tear up his tactics; process managers never do. He shouldnt do so either. But yes, he's got to continue tweaking. A teamsheet without a maverick Aribo / Holgate decision would help.
Post by theallseeingeye on Sept 25, 2023 14:26:35 GMT
I think we need to let this year play out
Promotion already looking very unlikely…. Mid table at best.
I personally think we are only going to bully and beat teams that are scared… if we’d won the 1st 6 that might have happened but we’ve been found out and nobody will fear us now… and I don’t think we have the grunt for a dog fight or the class to win 10 on the bounce.
We are… all fart and no sh1t.
We have to give it half the season as it could pick up…