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Post by choixkoix on Aug 16, 2024 8:49:42 GMT
What I saw of Archer, he had the mix you want: long shots, box finishing, pace, power, can run with ball. Cant remember if he can head or not, but that mix makes him way better than Mara. I reckon he'd also be more of a central option (along with Ross Stewart god willing) whereas the two who will start against Newcastle are players with a record of doing their best work from wide.
That I saw of Sheff Utd under Wilder the defensive side of the team had snapped. I think Utd fans would say Archer was inconsistent during his time there but he's a signing at our level (look at Bournemouth... signing a replacement striker for Solanke from FC Porto who scored 25 goals last season), with not a lot of first team football behind him and room to grow.
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Post by Furry Frank The Combat Wombat on Aug 16, 2024 8:50:22 GMT
Russ clearly doesn’t rate Shea does he! It's a weird one. I think Shea has suffered from Downes being so good and therefore he doesn't have the game time to be trusted in the PL yet. I think we'll loan him out rather than sell and he'll get game time at a decent level (mid Championship) and come back ready for wherever we are next season. I do wonder what promises we are making to Chelsea about game time for their guy though, Flynn is clearly the main man, are we going to play double DM? I hope he's at least considering that option for the hard games instead of 5 at the back.. or maybe even as well, given our defence
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Post by choixkoix on Aug 16, 2024 8:59:54 GMT
It's a weird one. I think Shea has suffered from Downes being so good and therefore he doesn't have the game time to be trusted in the PL yet. I think we'll loan him out rather than sell and he'll get game time at a decent level (mid Championship) and come back ready for wherever we are next season. I do wonder what promises we are making to Chelsea about game time for their guy though, Flynn is clearly the main man, are we going to play double DM? I hope he's at least considering that option for the hard games instead of 5 at the back.. or maybe even as well, given our defence Although three CDs is how we are likely to start the season, I think Swansea or Milton Keynes fans said he prefers a back 4. If we are looking at BBD-central striker-AA as one of our options in attack, thats exciting (no ineffectual wingers!) and probably would need 2 of the midfield 3 being more defensively adept.
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Post by crazydanny on Aug 16, 2024 9:13:00 GMT
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Post by choixkoix on Aug 16, 2024 9:25:58 GMT
Massive, not sure how Archer can be 15m.
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Aug 16, 2024 9:31:29 GMT
I'm confused by Archer... He left Villa, went to Sheff U - I'd assumed a loan, but it looks like it was a transfer and then transferred back to Villa this summer?! Villa clearly rate him, so why are they sending him back out for a fee, why not a loan? Don't get me wrong I'd rather ahe's ours
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Post by threehundred on Aug 16, 2024 9:40:20 GMT
Massive, not sure how Archer can be 15m. He was last sold for £18 million (or 18.5, depending on the source) and bought back by Villa for presumably a similar sum. I’m reasonably excited about this one… good profile, if not (yet) prolific. Glad it’s not a loan and £15m seems about right. So, we will have 1 loan spot to fill and potentially one more purchase (depending on the sales of ABK and Mara). I wonder what the next few weeks will bring…
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Aug 16, 2024 9:52:40 GMT
£10-12m for Mara is really interesting I think. It's good money for Saints because I just don't think he applies himself here for the level of ability he has shown in flashes, so it frees up money for Archer. But, if someone can get him to apply himself I still think there's a striker in there so it could look like a great deal for the buying club in the long run
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Aug 16, 2024 9:54:00 GMT
Massive, not sure how Archer can be 15m. He was last sold for £18 million (or 18.5, depending on the source) and bought back by Villa for presumably a similar sum. I’m reasonably excited about this one… good profile, if not (yet) prolific. Glad it’s not a loan and £15m seems about right. So, we will have 1 loan spot to fill and potentially one more purchase (depending on the sales of ABK and Mara). I wonder what the next few weeks will bring… Got to keep that loan spot open for the GK I'd have thought? We know the club have invested in the long term future of Bazunu so I don't see us signing a perminent no.1
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Post by threehundred on Aug 16, 2024 10:04:11 GMT
He was last sold for £18 million (or 18.5, depending on the source) and bought back by Villa for presumably a similar sum. I’m reasonably excited about this one… good profile, if not (yet) prolific. Glad it’s not a loan and £15m seems about right. So, we will have 1 loan spot to fill and potentially one more purchase (depending on the sales of ABK and Mara). I wonder what the next few weeks will bring… Got to keep that loan spot open for the GK I'd have thought? We know the club have invested in the long term future of Bazunu so I don't see us signing a perminent no.1 Lis is still here and has a shirt number… 😳
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Post by choixkoix on Aug 16, 2024 10:33:04 GMT
10-12m for Mara is awesome. Just about breaking even on a player whose highlights reel for us is 15 seconds long. Honestly, Nathan Jones is due some of his pay off money for that win over City because that performance alone belies the hope in the player. That and him still getting time for the National team at u-21.
Its harsh, and lord forgive me, but he had a season with us in a high performing second tier team. If he was going to make it, I should have seen something more than the odd second half goal to seal a rout. He literally has only one impressive performance for us as a starting pick (the Man City game). No evidence of the determination, the technique, the physicals or the mentals to be what we hoped would be.
French football's reeling financially at the moment, and it was probably the only league he'd have had interest from. This really is a stroke of luck.
Flamengo are supposedly in for Charly at a not too bad fee. Potentially ABK, Sekou and Charly out - all of which I think we should do for the FFP benefit and little loss on impact on our first team. I have more trust in the current ability and potential of Southampton FC's recruitment targets 2024 than those we signed before we were relegated. There is a clear difference in our business.
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Post by Frankfurt Saint on Aug 16, 2024 10:38:21 GMT
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Post by Frankfurt Saint on Aug 16, 2024 10:41:21 GMT
Archer would be a good signing if true. Looks like we do want the option of a front three of central striker flanked by BBD and AA, given our links with other strikers like the Greek one. Not sure how we would afford Archer on a permanent given what they paid to bring him back to Villa, maybe a THB style loan with buy clause? Goals are what keep you up in this league when youre in a relegation fight, so really encouraging if true. Wonder if Chelsea midfielder and Mara to Strasbourg (Chelsea's French club) is a bit of loaning 'you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours'? Going to be a bit squeaky bum getting deals over the line but theres possibility here of Greek Lazio GK, Chelsea midfielder on loan, Archer and one of the few midfielder/wingers we've been linked with... that would be a lot more flesh on the bone. According to L’Equipe they are in advanced talks for Sekou Mara for a deal between 10-12 million euros. www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Mercato-strasbourg-en-discussions-avancees-pour-sekou-mara-southampton/1501644This hardly seems a fair way to repay Strasbourg for letting us have Schneiderlin.
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Aug 16, 2024 10:45:06 GMT
Got to keep that loan spot open for the GK I'd have thought? We know the club have invested in the long term future of Bazunu so I don't see us signing a perminent no.1 Lis is still here and has a shirt number… 😳 Shitnotcited
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Post by channonite on Aug 16, 2024 11:12:55 GMT
Massive, not sure how Archer can be 15m. He was last sold for £18 million (or 18.5, depending on the source) and bought back by Villa for presumably a similar sum. I’m reasonably excited about this one… good profile, if not (yet) prolific. Glad it’s not a loan and £15m seems about right. So, we will have 1 loan spot to fill and potentially one more purchase (depending on the sales of ABK and Mara). I wonder what the next few weeks will bring… Archer was sold by Villa to Sheffield United for £18.5M this time last year, but with a £16M buy-back clause that would be triggered by relegation. Effectively a loan as it turned out.
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