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Post by Frankfurt Saint on Jul 23, 2024 16:16:15 GMT
Are we turning Japanese?
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Post by threehundred on Jul 23, 2024 16:35:12 GMT
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Post by theallseeingeye on Jul 23, 2024 16:40:06 GMT
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Post by Furry Frank The Combat Wombat on Jul 23, 2024 16:53:29 GMT
I thought you meant Yuki! Matsuki still plays for Tokyo FC I think… But it would be good if we could get him if he can make the step up to European football Thank he might be butchered in Turkey ? Does that there are three Japanese either signed, or about to. Don't forget there is the young forward, Rento Takaoka, who is 17 and has signed a pre-contract. He will come to Southampton when he is 18 in March next year. I think the 3 includes him... so 1 is confirmed and 2 are pending (one of whom will go to Turkey)... so as far as this season is concerned, just the 1
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Post by choixkoix on Jul 24, 2024 2:29:10 GMT
It seems we are particularly in the business for 3 positions now: CM, AMR and ST. For the ST's it seems to be Bereton-Diaz and/or Asante-Brown.
I know there's some bemusement with the links to Asante-Brown but it doesnt strike me as too mad a signing, particularly if he was one of two. You just dont buy finished strikers anymore at our financial level. It strikes me as credible because he's got one year left on his contract, which we look for. Suspect Russ knows him from MK Dons time. He's got 10 goals for 2 consecutive seasons in a relatively unattacking West Brom team. He's got pace and power. At 5-7m that would be a squad player who could develop as other through-the-leagues strikers have done.
I really think with strikers in the PL, you either have to develop and wait for someone young with the right physicals to gather the experience and strikercraft to start banging them in (e.g. Solanke, Watkins) where initial seasons may not have many goals. Or you sign someone at 27/28 or older whose accumulated that guile. You just cant afford or even acquire a ready made 15 goal proven striker (unless looking at a geriatric on high wages whose not the player they were).
Bereton-Diaz makes a lot of sense as a prime target. Can play two positions. Wasted a couple of years with moves that havent worked out. We've had long term interest. Like Adam A he's a goalscorer at Championship level looking for the right club or manager to allow him to do it at a higher level. If you sign him, then we have the option of two inside forwards on either side of a central striker rather than wingers being asked to be strikery. His cameo for Sheffield United last season yielded 6 goals.. If he'd played the whole season thats 15-18 goals in a struggling team.
If you take that players like Reiss Nelson are out of our league, options like these are probably sensible bets ... and an upgrade on Mara.
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Post by vectis on Jul 24, 2024 6:19:45 GMT
It seems we are particularly in the business for 3 positions now: CM, AMR and ST. For the ST's it seems to be Bereton-Diaz and/or Asante-Brown. I know there's some bemusement with the links to Asante-Brown but it doesnt strike me as too mad a signing, particularly if he was one of two. You just dont buy finished strikers anymore at our financial level. It strikes me as credible because he's got one year left on his contract, which we look for. Suspect Russ knows him from MK Dons time. He's got 10 goals for 2 consecutive seasons in a relatively unattacking West Brom team. He's got pace and power. At 5-7m that would be a squad player who could develop as other through-the-leagues strikers have done. I really think with strikers in the PL, you either have to develop and wait for someone young with the right physicals to gather the experience and strikercraft to start banging them in (e.g. Solanke, Watkins) where initial seasons may not have many goals. Or you sign someone at 27/28 or older whose accumulated that guile. You just cant afford or even acquire a ready made 15 goal proven striker (unless looking at a geriatric on high wages whose not the player they were). Bereton-Diaz makes a lot of sense as a prime target. Can play two positions. Wasted a couple of years with moves that havent worked out. We've had long term interest. Like Adam A he's a goalscorer at Championship level looking for the right club or manager to allow him to do it at a higher level. If you sign him, then we have the option of two inside forwards on either side of a central striker rather than wingers being asked to be strikery. His cameo for Sheffield United last season yielded 6 goals.. If he'd played the whole season thats 15-18 goals in a struggling team. If you take that players like Reiss Nelson are out of our league, options like these are probably sensible bets ... and an upgrade on Mara. I think this is right. And given that RM said ages ago that he wanted to buy a striker even if Adams stayed then I suspect we will get two if we can. One younger, one older.
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Post by earlscourtsaint on Jul 24, 2024 7:29:27 GMT
It seems we are particularly in the business for 3 positions now: CM, AMR and ST. For the ST's it seems to be Bereton-Diaz and/or Asante-Brown. I know there's some bemusement with the links to Asante-Brown but it doesnt strike me as too mad a signing, particularly if he was one of two. You just dont buy finished strikers anymore at our financial level. It strikes me as credible because he's got one year left on his contract, which we look for. Suspect Russ knows him from MK Dons time. He's got 10 goals for 2 consecutive seasons in a relatively unattacking West Brom team. He's got pace and power. At 5-7m that would be a squad player who could develop as other through-the-leagues strikers have done. I really think with strikers in the PL, you either have to develop and wait for someone young with the right physicals to gather the experience and strikercraft to start banging them in (e.g. Solanke, Watkins) where initial seasons may not have many goals. Or you sign someone at 27/28 or older whose accumulated that guile. You just cant afford or even acquire a ready made 15 goal proven striker (unless looking at a geriatric on high wages whose not the player they were). Bereton-Diaz makes a lot of sense as a prime target. Can play two positions. Wasted a couple of years with moves that havent worked out. We've had long term interest. Like Adam A he's a goalscorer at Championship level looking for the right club or manager to allow him to do it at a higher level. If you sign him, then we have the option of two inside forwards on either side of a central striker rather than wingers being asked to be strikery. His cameo for Sheffield United last season yielded 6 goals.. If he'd played the whole season thats 15-18 goals in a struggling team. If you take that players like Reiss Nelson are out of our league, options like these are probably sensible bets ... and an upgrade on Mara. Exactly this, any proven top league striker has a starting price of £30-40m, which firstly is not money we have to risk, secondly every club in the Premiership is after a striker and thirdly the player/agent will be well aware of my first two points so will hold out for as long as possible for the biggest deal at the biggest club - and at the moment that’s not us! Danny Ings certainly fits the bill as an older/wiser player that ‘could’ do a job for us, but he’s not the player he was 4 years ago, I’d prefer either or both of the options above.
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Jul 24, 2024 11:59:32 GMT
It seems we are particularly in the business for 3 positions now: CM, AMR and ST. For the ST's it seems to be Bereton-Diaz and/or Asante-Brown. I know there's some bemusement with the links to Asante-Brown but it doesnt strike me as too mad a signing, particularly if he was one of two. You just dont buy finished strikers anymore at our financial level. It strikes me as credible because he's got one year left on his contract, which we look for. Suspect Russ knows him from MK Dons time. He's got 10 goals for 2 consecutive seasons in a relatively unattacking West Brom team. He's got pace and power. At 5-7m that would be a squad player who could develop as other through-the-leagues strikers have done. I really think with strikers in the PL, you either have to develop and wait for someone young with the right physicals to gather the experience and strikercraft to start banging them in (e.g. Solanke, Watkins) where initial seasons may not have many goals. Or you sign someone at 27/28 or older whose accumulated that guile. You just cant afford or even acquire a ready made 15 goal proven striker (unless looking at a geriatric on high wages whose not the player they were). Bereton-Diaz makes a lot of sense as a prime target. Can play two positions. Wasted a couple of years with moves that havent worked out. We've had long term interest. Like Adam A he's a goalscorer at Championship level looking for the right club or manager to allow him to do it at a higher level. If you sign him, then we have the option of two inside forwards on either side of a central striker rather than wingers being asked to be strikery. His cameo for Sheffield United last season yielded 6 goals.. If he'd played the whole season thats 15-18 goals in a struggling team. If you take that players like Reiss Nelson are out of our league, options like these are probably sensible bets ... and an upgrade on Mara. I agree on the BBD stuff. And I agree that strikers need to develop, but for me buying Asante-Brown at 25 to develop is more of a gamble than sticking with Mara and Ballard both a lot younger to develop. Mara has shown glimpses of brilliance, but they are just glimpses he could yet become a good striker. Ballard has scored hat fulls at every level he's played at and probably needs a good loan this year to prove he can do that in a good team - I'd be offering him to Danny Rohl at Sheffield Wednesday to be honest and see if they want him before he comes back to support the main striker at Saints next year, or hopefully he's ready to be it if we get relegated.
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Post by Furry Frank The Combat Wombat on Jul 24, 2024 12:13:08 GMT
It seems we are particularly in the business for 3 positions now: CM, AMR and ST. For the ST's it seems to be Bereton-Diaz and/or Asante-Brown. I know there's some bemusement with the links to Asante-Brown but it doesnt strike me as too mad a signing, particularly if he was one of two. You just dont buy finished strikers anymore at our financial level. It strikes me as credible because he's got one year left on his contract, which we look for. Suspect Russ knows him from MK Dons time. He's got 10 goals for 2 consecutive seasons in a relatively unattacking West Brom team. He's got pace and power. At 5-7m that would be a squad player who could develop as other through-the-leagues strikers have done. I really think with strikers in the PL, you either have to develop and wait for someone young with the right physicals to gather the experience and strikercraft to start banging them in (e.g. Solanke, Watkins) where initial seasons may not have many goals. Or you sign someone at 27/28 or older whose accumulated that guile. You just cant afford or even acquire a ready made 15 goal proven striker (unless looking at a geriatric on high wages whose not the player they were). Bereton-Diaz makes a lot of sense as a prime target. Can play two positions. Wasted a couple of years with moves that havent worked out. We've had long term interest. Like Adam A he's a goalscorer at Championship level looking for the right club or manager to allow him to do it at a higher level. If you sign him, then we have the option of two inside forwards on either side of a central striker rather than wingers being asked to be strikery. His cameo for Sheffield United last season yielded 6 goals.. If he'd played the whole season thats 15-18 goals in a struggling team. If you take that players like Reiss Nelson are out of our league, options like these are probably sensible bets ... and an upgrade on Mara. I agree on the BBD stuff. And I agree that strikers need to develop, but for me buying Asante-Brown at 25 to develop is more of a gamble than sticking with Mara and Ballard both a lot younger to develop. Mara has shown glimpses of brilliance, but they are just glimpses he could yet become a good striker. Ballard has scored hat fulls at every level he's played at and probably needs a good loan this year to prove he can do that in a good team - I'd be offering him to Danny Rohl at Sheffield Wednesday to be honest and see if they want him before he comes back to support the main striker at Saints next year, or hopefully he's ready to be it if we get relegated. Agreed.. BBD makes sense, with another striker of another sort. On that basis I can kinda understand AB in theory, as he is a unit, but in practice he's clearly a downgrade on Che, and we don't need that.
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Post by THE BEAST on Jul 24, 2024 18:21:35 GMT
neither of those strikers is what I would look at bringing in, although BBD might be, just not sure I've seen it yet.
The WBA bloke, if he ain't developed by now he ain't developing, that would be a really big mistake
We need to get someone from Europe and take a chance. We need to find the next big sexy… He's gonna be out there somewhere
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Post by threehundred on Jul 24, 2024 20:16:40 GMT
neither of those strikers is what I would look at bringing in, although BBD might be, just not sure I've seen it yet. The WBA bloke, if he ain't developed by now he ain't developing, that would be a really big mistake We need to get someone from Europe and take a chance. We need to find the next big sexy… He's gonna be out there somewhere My thoughts exactly. Brereton Diaz doesn’t give me the horn.
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Post by spot51 on Jul 24, 2024 20:30:33 GMT
I've been watching Martin Terrier at Rennes and thinking HCDAJFU till he did his cruciate last year. He returned last season and started banging them in again. Hey Presto - just moved to Leverkusen for €20m. So yes, they are out there.
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Post by Furry Frank The Combat Wombat on Jul 24, 2024 23:15:25 GMT
neither of those strikers is what I would look at bringing in, although BBD might be, just not sure I've seen it yet. The WBA bloke, if he ain't developed by now he ain't developing, that would be a really big mistake We need to get someone from Europe and take a chance. We need to find the next big sexy… He's gonna be out there somewhere My thoughts exactly. Brereton Diaz doesn’t give me the horn. The likelihood of us signing a striker that gives us the horn is vanishingly small. When was the last time small fry like us pulled off (snerk) that sort of coup?
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Jul 25, 2024 7:31:20 GMT
My thoughts exactly. Brereton Diaz doesn’t give me the horn. The likelihood of us signing a striker that gives us the horn is vanishingly small. When was the last time small fry like us pulled off (snerk) that sort of coup? That time we signed we had three Italian international strikers in a row and one of them was Big Sexy - HOT feck me that all feels like a distant memory
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Post by threehundred on Jul 25, 2024 7:34:08 GMT
My thoughts exactly. Brereton Diaz doesn’t give me the horn. The likelihood of us signing a striker that gives us the horn is vanishingly small. When was the last time small fry like us pulled off (snerk) that sort of coup? Ings, I guess. I was delighted when we signed Arma and thought he could be great in the Prem. I was wrong, and it took much viagra / relegation for me to get a tingle in my dingle again.
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