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Post by vectis on Jul 26, 2024 14:18:23 GMT
Yeah, don't worry. Neither have been signed for Saints as far as I've read. They're off to Turkey. Can't see how this benefits us, but I suppose that's not the point. They will end up on loan at Goztpe but we will be paying their wages. Again, don't see how that benefits us. I suppose this is just how the multi-club system works. It doesn't seem like there is any benefit to Saints at the moment. Presumably, if one of them surprises and does really well in Turkey then we can bring him back from loan. But I don't see that happening.
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Post by choixkoix on Jul 26, 2024 14:49:21 GMT
www.southamptonfc.com/en/news/article/personal-terms-agreed-with-sao-paulo-duoPre-contracts. "That will join up with the club in January". Though nothing in their records screams 'key player for Saints', I'd wait to see what comes out of staff at the club on these signings. I may be wrong, but work permit rules now may allow more chance for a player like Wellington who has regularly being playing.
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Post by Frankfurt Saint on Jul 26, 2024 15:05:20 GMT
I never thought I’d end up as a Göztepe fan.
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Post by jickster on Jul 26, 2024 15:07:54 GMT
They will end up on loan at Goztpe but we will be paying their wages. Again, don't see how that benefits us. I suppose this is just how the multi-club system works. It doesn't seem like there is any benefit to Saints at the moment. Presumably, if one of them surprises and does really well in Turkey then we can bring him back from loan. But I don't see that happening. I do think that Saints need to be a bit more transparent about this with the fans. Not necessarily being blunt in OS posts like this, but something in the media about how it helps Saints. For example, Man City have signed Savinho: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/crgl947d6p5o"It's no wonder Manchester City have made Savinho their first signing of the summer, snapping him up from sister team Troyes, who had loaned him to Girona. The 20-year-old has become the first player to climb all the way to the top of the City Football Group pyramid." All a bit weird how the cash is flowing around the 'City Football Group', but it means City have ended up with a player for cheap apparently in an easy deal. With Saints, why are we actually buying the players and then loaning them out though?
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Post by saintsfan73 on Jul 26, 2024 15:50:38 GMT
Again, don't see how that benefits us. I suppose this is just how the multi-club system works. It doesn't seem like there is any benefit to Saints at the moment. Presumably, if one of them surprises and does really well in Turkey then we can bring him back from loan. But I don't see that happening. I do think that Saints need to be a bit more transparent about this with the fans. Not necessarily being blunt in OS posts like this, but something in the media about how it helps Saints. For example, Man City have signed Savinho: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/crgl947d6p5o"It's no wonder Manchester City have made Savinho their first signing of the summer, snapping him up from sister team Troyes, who had loaned him to Girona. The 20-year-old has become the first player to climb all the way to the top of the City Football Group pyramid." All a bit weird how the cash is flowing around the 'City Football Group', but it means City have ended up with a player for cheap apparently in an easy deal. With Saints, why are we actually buying the players and then loaning them out though? Because Goztepe can't afford to buy players, but Saints are (back) on the PL gravy train and so can afford to buy players for them. The whole multi-club model really stinks doesn't it...
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Post by Frankfurt Saint on Jul 26, 2024 16:23:55 GMT
I do think that Saints need to be a bit more transparent about this with the fans. Not necessarily being blunt in OS posts like this, but something in the media about how it helps Saints. For example, Man City have signed Savinho: www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/crgl947d6p5o"It's no wonder Manchester City have made Savinho their first signing of the summer, snapping him up from sister team Troyes, who had loaned him to Girona. The 20-year-old has become the first player to climb all the way to the top of the City Football Group pyramid." All a bit weird how the cash is flowing around the 'City Football Group', but it means City have ended up with a player for cheap apparently in an easy deal. With Saints, why are we actually buying the players and then loaning them out though? Because Goztepe can't afford to buy players, but Saints are (back) on the PL gravy train and so can afford to buy players for them. The whole multi-club model really stinks doesn't it... What with them being so much bigger than us you’d kinda expect them to have more money but what do I know?
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Post by threehundred on Jul 26, 2024 18:21:24 GMT
How do these purchases / loans to Göztepe sit with FFP? Presumably, unless the annual loan fee exceeds the written down pro-rate transfer fee, this will piss on our balance sheet and impact our ability to strengthen our own team. Or have I got this completely wrong? I posted the above a couple of weeks ago - got no replies. Does anyone know how this works? It looks like we must be funding Göztepe to our detriment.
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Post by crazydanny on Jul 26, 2024 19:41:00 GMT
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Post by choixkoix on Jul 26, 2024 23:34:08 GMT
I see the list of interested clubs is even longer than I thought. When do we ever learn - when you really wamt someone but are in a bit of a fight, you've got to slap an aggressive offer in rather than try to extract maximum value inch by inch. Just feel this is set up for frustration. At least Atlanta seem to be speeding this up so maybe it reaches its endgame next week?
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Post by crazydanny on Jul 27, 2024 18:12:50 GMT
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Post by Frankfurt Saint on Jul 28, 2024 6:44:22 GMT
Brilliant. Another winger. Just what the doctor ordered.
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Post by crazydanny on Jul 28, 2024 6:57:55 GMT
Brilliant. Another winger. Just what the doctor ordered.
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Jul 28, 2024 7:23:42 GMT
Brilliant. Another winger. Just what the doctor ordered. I guess if thus is true it's not so bad if we're clearing out some shite and not blocking pathways for SAA, Dibling, Mallard etc... We definitely need at least one striker, no Che, TP and Ross Stewart doesn't seem to exist. Mara seems to play football like he's being forced to by his parents when he'd rather be playing Xbox, he needs to go. Hopefully BBD and one other. Winger, Sulemana has some skills but isn't up for it either, get him gone and that leaves Edozie, SAA, Armstrong, plus Dibling but not sure what his position is really, probably more of an AM. I think maybe Fraser for the experience off the bench and that lad from Palace wouldn't be bad. AM - we have Aribo, Smallbone, Charlie and Dibling for two positions. Smallbone I think starts most games, Martin loves him and he plays the system so well. Charlie is great but can he be trusted in this system? Aribo did well last season but wasn't great in the PL before. MOR is an exciting idea, but I can't see us getting him, he's going to be this season's Gapko I think
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Post by Frankfurt Saint on Jul 28, 2024 7:45:31 GMT
I can’t work out Mara as I think he’s got some talent but he plays like a spoiled little rich boy who can’t be arsed. God knows what he’s like in training if he can’t be bothered to run about in competitive matches or score penalties in friendlies. MLT had a reputation for being lazy but he always produced the goods. Mara just looks like a fish out of water.
Sulemana is also a very talented athlete but I don’t think he’s a footballer. He could be great in theory but we know (and everyone we play knows) that he’s got no end product. I’m not even sure I’d bother marking him as you know his every movement is going to end in a wayward pass or shot. Unlike with Mara, it’s not his fault, but he just doesn’t have the composure to play at the highest level.
They didn’t even make a dent in the Championship and there’s no way they’re good enough for the Prem. The two of them should be getting pelters for missing those penalties yesterday, just like Alcaraz did when he buggered about with one. I know that was different because it was in a competitive match but there’s less pressure to score in friendlies and Alcaraz later made up for it by scoring.
The only reason I’d keep Mara is because he seems to be on the same wavelength and quite matey with Alcaraz. I think we only bought Sulemana because we thought he would give Tall Paul some ammunition so keeping one without the other isn’t worth it. Maybe we should get shot of all four of them now. I think Alcaraz is entertaining but he doesn’t suit the system as he can’t keep the ball and he’s too unpredictable. You need a steady eddie in midfield like Flynn Downes, not a ticking time bomb like Alcaraz.
If we think it’s hard to find a decent striker then we’ve got no chance getting a playmaker. Oh for an MLT or a Rickie Lambert - they were like having 3/4 players in one. Dribbling could be in the same class but needs to play so why sign some injured kid on loan from Liverpool to block his path?
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Post by crazydanny on Jul 28, 2024 8:02:04 GMT
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