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Post by Furry Frank The Combat Wombat on Feb 10, 2024 12:54:29 GMT
Yeah, we watched that a while back (as it had the lad off of Misfits and Titsndragons whose name I can't remember - or pronounce probably, but he's always a decent watch) and found it very enjoyable. I might rewatch Misfits some day, pretty much all the kids in that have gone on to "big things" I recognised that bloke but couldn't remember where from.There were so many new actors on GOT and they keep cropping up everywhere. He's the one that cut Keith Allen's lad's meat n 2 veg off
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Post by spot51 on Feb 10, 2024 14:21:08 GMT
I recognised that bloke but couldn't remember where from.There were so many new actors on GOT and they keep cropping up everywhere. He's the one that cut Keith Allen's lad's meat n 2 veg off ...which was nice!
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Feb 12, 2024 9:21:16 GMT
The Iron Claw (Cinema): I knew next to nothing about this film before I went. I'd seen a trailer for it on the Monday before at a showing of Argylle. I'll be honest I wouldn't have gone based on the film's name - I'd have assumed another superhero film which I'm basically done with now I think. But the trailer looked decent, sort of like The Wrestler, The Fighter with a good nostalgic for the (80s) era and a decent soundtrack of 80s tunes.
This is the story of the Von Erich wrestling family. Von Erich senior is a pro wrestler that hasn't been very happy with how his career went, the film starts with one of his matches and then moves forward in time to his young grown up sons. One of them is Zac Efron and he is completely transformed. He's a fit lad obviously, but in this he's really bulked up and looks more Arnie than Efron. It's also got Jeremy Allen White who's the chef in The Bear (I've not watched that but I hear good things - anyone recommend?). Basically as the film develops it's very clear that the dad is a major influence on his sons and is basically forcing them into a life of wrestling or sports - One son (White) is in the US Olympic squad, one is a wrestler and the younger two are still finding their way - one a musician, but that isn't supported by the father. What unfolds is a story of relationships, families, love, coercion, control, fear, dedication but mostly tragedy - some of you may already be familiar with the Von Erich's but I wasn't (although having spent a lot of time afterwards googling the true story - I did recognise one of them) and had I been I probably wouldn't have chosen to watch this on a Saturday night out dinner and a movie type night. I'm so glad we went though. Both my wife and I were blown away. The whole cast is brilliant but you have to call out Zac Efron who is fecking brilliant and now possibly even more annoying because he can sing, dance, act, is very physically fit and handsome - you want to hate him, but it's impossible. The film doesn't shy away from the fact that Wrestling is pre-arranged, but it also shows the brutality of it, you really get thrown about and hurt, bady!
As I say I spent a lot of the following morning reading about the Von Erich family. There's actually loads missing from the film, but that's the nature of a 2hr film. There story is actually interesting enough for a 12 part series.
9/10
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Post by threehundred on Feb 12, 2024 9:58:41 GMT
The Iron Claw (Cinema): I knew next to nothing about this film before I went. I'd seen a trailer for it on the Monday before at a showing of Argylle. I'll be honest I wouldn't have gone based on the film's name - I'd have assumed another superhero film which I'm basically done with now I think. But the trailer looked decent, sort of like The Wrestler, The Fighter with a good nostalgic for the (80s) era and a decent soundtrack of 80s tunes. This is the story of the Von Erich wrestling family. Von Erich senior is a pro wrestler that hasn't been very happy with how his career went, the film starts with one of his matches and then moves forward in time to his young grown up sons. One of them is Zac Efron and he is completely transformed. He's a fit lad obviously, but in this he's really bulked up and looks more Arnie than Efron. It's also got Jeremy Allen White who's the chef in The Bear (I've not watched that but I hear good things - anyone recommend?). Basically as the film develops it's very clear that the dad is a major influence on his sons and is basically forcing them into a life of wrestling or sports - One son (White) is in the US Olympic squad, one is a wrestler and the younger two are still finding their way - one a musician, but that isn't supported by the father. What unfolds is a story of relationships, families, love, coercion, control, fear, dedication but mostly tragedy - some of you may already be familiar with the Von Erich's but I wasn't (although having spent a lot of time afterwards googling the true story - I did recognise one of them) and had I been I probably wouldn't have chosen to watch this on a Saturday night out dinner and a movie type night. I'm so glad we went though. Both my wife and I were blown away. The whole cast is brilliant but you have to call out Zac Efron who is fecking brilliant and now possibly even more annoying because he can sing, dance, act, is very physically fit and handsome - you want to hate him, but it's impossible. The film doesn't shy away from the fact that Wrestling is pre-arranged, but it also shows the brutality of it, you really get thrown about and hurt, bady! As I say I spent a lot of the following morning reading about the Von Erich family. There's actually loads missing from the film, but that's the nature of a 2hr film. There story is actually interesting enough for a 12 part series. 9/10 I really want to see this. I remember the Texas Tornado from WWF back in the day and have known about the curse of the Von Erichs for a long time. It’s a weird but very sad story. Love Jeremy Allen White… the Bear is simply fabulous.
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Post by THE BEAST on Feb 12, 2024 13:54:47 GMT
is this about midget wrestling?
I thought Zac was a little short for this kind of role?
JAW also I would have thought although less so than the former
Thank you for the review, I haven't like wrestling since I watched the UK Saturday afternoon wrestling as a child and don't think I would ever bother searching this one out for that reason.
But if I see it somewhere, I will give it a watch because of your review. Cheers mush
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Feb 12, 2024 14:07:32 GMT
is this about midget wrestling? I thought Zac was a little short for this kind of role? JAW also I would have thought although less so than the former Thank you for the review, I haven't like wrestling since I watched the UK Saturday afternoon wrestling as a child and don't think I would ever bother searching this one out for that reason. But if I see it somewhere, I will give it a watch because of your review. Cheers mush Same - not a Wrestling fan at all. Not since I was a little kid but something about the trailer for this made it look very interesting. In the same way that the trailer for The Wrestler looked interesting. It's not about the glitz and glamour and bullshit, it's about the people - and people are interesting. Interesting point about height. I never thought about it watching the film really but yes they are both short guys. And, your comment makes me like the film even more because I realise they've been clever in how it's shot. There's lots of full screen close ups of the guys or shots of just them on their own so there's no reference to other people. I thought it was just about showing they were bulky but I think it could also be to get around the height thing. White is actually shorter than Efron Zac Efron and I are the same height... We're similar in so many ways... stop laughing at the back!
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Post by saintsfan73 on Feb 12, 2024 15:10:00 GMT
The Iron Claw (Cinema): I knew next to nothing about this film before I went. I'd seen a trailer for it on the Monday before at a showing of Argylle. I'll be honest I wouldn't have gone based on the film's name - I'd have assumed another superhero film which I'm basically done with now I think. But the trailer looked decent, sort of like The Wrestler, The Fighter with a good nostalgic for the (80s) era and a decent soundtrack of 80s tunes. This is the story of the Von Erich wrestling family. Von Erich senior is a pro wrestler that hasn't been very happy with how his career went, the film starts with one of his matches and then moves forward in time to his young grown up sons. One of them is Zac Efron and he is completely transformed. He's a fit lad obviously, but in this he's really bulked up and looks more Arnie than Efron. It's also got Jeremy Allen White who's the chef in The Bear (I've not watched that but I hear good things - anyone recommend?). Basically as the film develops it's very clear that the dad is a major influence on his sons and is basically forcing them into a life of wrestling or sports - One son (White) is in the US Olympic squad, one is a wrestler and the younger two are still finding their way - one a musician, but that isn't supported by the father. What unfolds is a story of relationships, families, love, coercion, control, fear, dedication but mostly tragedy - some of you may already be familiar with the Von Erich's but I wasn't (although having spent a lot of time afterwards googling the true story - I did recognise one of them) and had I been I probably wouldn't have chosen to watch this on a Saturday night out dinner and a movie type night. I'm so glad we went though. Both my wife and I were blown away. The whole cast is brilliant but you have to call out Zac Efron who is fecking brilliant and now possibly even more annoying because he can sing, dance, act, is very physically fit and handsome - you want to hate him, but it's impossible. The film doesn't shy away from the fact that Wrestling is pre-arranged, but it also shows the brutality of it, you really get thrown about and hurt, bady! As I say I spent a lot of the following morning reading about the Von Erich family. There's actually loads missing from the film, but that's the nature of a 2hr film. There story is actually interesting enough for a 12 part series. 9/10 It's an amazing story isn't it. For 100 years up to the mid 80s wrestling was not the (inter)national thing it became under WWF/WWE, it was a territory based business where promotions ran specific areas. The one in Dallas was called WCCW and was run by the Adkisson family. They used the name Von Erich as the father had a Nazi(!) heel gimmick in the 50s. When satellite TV started over here WCCW was one the filler items that were put on satellite sports channels. Specifically Screensport I think, so have always been interested in the Von Erich story as was a big wrestling fan when a teenager lol. The story of the Vnn Erich family is truly tragic and I would agree that there is much a film couldn't fit in. There have been many programmes done about them. There is an episode of Dark Side of the Ring and also a good DVD called 'Heroes of World Class' if you wanted a deeper look. I assume the one you had heard of was Kerry who wrestled as the Texas Tornado in the WWF in the early 90s. Not sure if it was covered in the film but after a motorcycle accident he had a foot amputated but continued to wrestle and no one knew he had a false one as he always turned up to events with his wrestling boots on! Sadly he ended up taking the tragic Von Erich road of depression, drug abuse and suicide. I'll have to try to watch the film. I have a couple of mates who are still massive wrasslin fans.
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Feb 12, 2024 16:12:57 GMT
The Iron Claw (Cinema): I knew next to nothing about this film before I went. I'd seen a trailer for it on the Monday before at a showing of Argylle. I'll be honest I wouldn't have gone based on the film's name - I'd have assumed another superhero film which I'm basically done with now I think. But the trailer looked decent, sort of like The Wrestler, The Fighter with a good nostalgic for the (80s) era and a decent soundtrack of 80s tunes. This is the story of the Von Erich wrestling family. Von Erich senior is a pro wrestler that hasn't been very happy with how his career went, the film starts with one of his matches and then moves forward in time to his young grown up sons. One of them is Zac Efron and he is completely transformed. He's a fit lad obviously, but in this he's really bulked up and looks more Arnie than Efron. It's also got Jeremy Allen White who's the chef in The Bear (I've not watched that but I hear good things - anyone recommend?). Basically as the film develops it's very clear that the dad is a major influence on his sons and is basically forcing them into a life of wrestling or sports - One son (White) is in the US Olympic squad, one is a wrestler and the younger two are still finding their way - one a musician, but that isn't supported by the father. What unfolds is a story of relationships, families, love, coercion, control, fear, dedication but mostly tragedy - some of you may already be familiar with the Von Erich's but I wasn't (although having spent a lot of time afterwards googling the true story - I did recognise one of them) and had I been I probably wouldn't have chosen to watch this on a Saturday night out dinner and a movie type night. I'm so glad we went though. Both my wife and I were blown away. The whole cast is brilliant but you have to call out Zac Efron who is fecking brilliant and now possibly even more annoying because he can sing, dance, act, is very physically fit and handsome - you want to hate him, but it's impossible. The film doesn't shy away from the fact that Wrestling is pre-arranged, but it also shows the brutality of it, you really get thrown about and hurt, bady! As I say I spent a lot of the following morning reading about the Von Erich family. There's actually loads missing from the film, but that's the nature of a 2hr film. There story is actually interesting enough for a 12 part series. 9/10 It's an amazing story isn't it. For 100 years up to the mid 80s wrestling was not the (inter)national thing it became under WWF/WWE, it was a territory based business where promotions ran specific areas. The one in Dallas was called WCCW and was run by the Adkisson family. They used the name Von Erich as the father had a Nazi(!) heel gimmick in the 50s. When satellite TV started over here WCCW was one the filler items that were put on satellite sports channels. Specifically Screensport I think, so have always been interested in the Von Erich story as was a big wrestling fan when a teenager lol. The story of the Vnn Erich family is truly tragic and I would agree that there is much a film couldn't fit in. There have been many programmes done about them. There is an episode of Dark Side of the Ring and also a good DVD called 'Heroes of World Class' if you wanted a deeper look. I assume the one you had heard of was Kerry who wrestled as the Texas Tornado in the WWF in the early 90s. Not sure if it was covered in the film but after a motorcycle accident he had a foot amputated but continued to wrestle and no one knew he had a false one as he always turned up to events with his wrestling boots on! Sadly he ended up taking the tragic Von Erich road of depression, drug abuse and suicide. I'll have to try to watch the film. I have a couple of mates who are still massive wrasslin fans. Yes, it was Kerry - Texas Tornado, although I don't think they used that name in the film at all. As I say it's limited in what it can do with two hours, basically they're pulling a story out of the middle of a massive story. I'd be interested in the view of someone that knows a lot about this story on the film because I imagine you'd be disappointed. Weird comparison but I imagine it would be like a big fan of a band going to a concert and the band only playing the radio friendly hits. But also I reckon it'll get people like me digging a lot deeper into the story now. Since watching the film I've discovered that there were 6 brothers not 5, more than one of them was married (only Kevin has a wife in the film), there were divorces, drugs all sorts... Yes, the foot thing features heavily the wrestling itself doesn't really feature that much, as I've realised since that they had significant careers, the film makes it feel like it's all happening quickly, but it obviously happened over a period of time. Will see if I can find those programmes on Youtube or something
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Post by saintsfan73 on Feb 12, 2024 17:13:09 GMT
It's an amazing story isn't it. For 100 years up to the mid 80s wrestling was not the (inter)national thing it became under WWF/WWE, it was a territory based business where promotions ran specific areas. The one in Dallas was called WCCW and was run by the Adkisson family. They used the name Von Erich as the father had a Nazi(!) heel gimmick in the 50s. When satellite TV started over here WCCW was one the filler items that were put on satellite sports channels. Specifically Screensport I think, so have always been interested in the Von Erich story as was a big wrestling fan when a teenager lol. The story of the Vnn Erich family is truly tragic and I would agree that there is much a film couldn't fit in. There have been many programmes done about them. There is an episode of Dark Side of the Ring and also a good DVD called 'Heroes of World Class' if you wanted a deeper look. I assume the one you had heard of was Kerry who wrestled as the Texas Tornado in the WWF in the early 90s. Not sure if it was covered in the film but after a motorcycle accident he had a foot amputated but continued to wrestle and no one knew he had a false one as he always turned up to events with his wrestling boots on! Sadly he ended up taking the tragic Von Erich road of depression, drug abuse and suicide. I'll have to try to watch the film. I have a couple of mates who are still massive wrasslin fans. Yes, it was Kerry - Texas Tornado, although I don't think they used that name in the film at all. As I say it's limited in what it can do with two hours, basically they're pulling a story out of the middle of a massive story. I'd be interested in the view of someone that knows a lot about this story on the film because I imagine you'd be disappointed. Weird comparison but I imagine it would be like a big fan of a band going to a concert and the band only playing the radio friendly hits. But also I reckon it'll get people like me digging a lot deeper into the story now. Since watching the film I've discovered that there were 6 brothers not 5, more than one of them was married (only Kevin has a wife in the film), there were divorces, drugs all sorts... Yes, the foot thing features heavily the wrestling itself doesn't really feature that much, as I've realised since that they had significant careers, the film makes it feel like it's all happening quickly, but it obviously happened over a period of time. Will see if I can find those programmes on Youtube or something Guess it was Chris they didn't cover. He was small compared to his brothers so shouldn't have really been a pro wrestler, which was something that led to his suicide... Here's the Dark Side ep...
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Feb 12, 2024 19:24:41 GMT
Yes, it was Kerry - Texas Tornado, although I don't think they used that name in the film at all. As I say it's limited in what it can do with two hours, basically they're pulling a story out of the middle of a massive story. I'd be interested in the view of someone that knows a lot about this story on the film because I imagine you'd be disappointed. Weird comparison but I imagine it would be like a big fan of a band going to a concert and the band only playing the radio friendly hits. But also I reckon it'll get people like me digging a lot deeper into the story now. Since watching the film I've discovered that there were 6 brothers not 5, more than one of them was married (only Kevin has a wife in the film), there were divorces, drugs all sorts... Yes, the foot thing features heavily the wrestling itself doesn't really feature that much, as I've realised since that they had significant careers, the film makes it feel like it's all happening quickly, but it obviously happened over a period of time. Will see if I can find those programmes on Youtube or something Guess it was Chris they didn't cover. He was small compared to his brothers so shouldn't have really been a pro wrestler, which was something that led to his suicide... Here's the Dark Side ep... We've just watched this, thanks. I looked up why Chris wasn't in the film, the answer was the filmmakers thought it was too similar to Kerry's story and thus unbelievable for an audience. Imagine, true life more unbelievable than Hollywood!
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Post by emsworthsaint on Feb 14, 2024 21:01:44 GMT
Argylle (Cinema): I really wanted to enjoy this one. It's from Matthew Vaughan who's been responsible for some great films (first Kingsman, Layer Cake, Stardust, Kick Ass, X-Men First Class) and some absolute guff (second and third Kingsman). It also has Bryce Dallas Howard in it who I love and Brian Cranston, who I also love. Got to say I wasn't disappointed. It's about a writer of spy novels who ends up caught up in a real life spy situation - I can't really say much more than that without giving away the game. I thought it might be like Romancing the Stone and Jewel of the Nile and I guess a little bit to start with. But for me this felt more like an up to date version of something like True Lies and The Long Kiss Goodnight. There's great action and two of the best 'dance' scenes you'll ever see (one on some makeshift ice skates). It's witty, it's incredibly watchable and it spins your head for you (my one criticism is that maybe it does this a little too much - but I had fun so I'll let it off). 8/10 MrsE & I have decided to make more effort to go to the cinema this year so saw this tonight. Really enjoyed it, did exactly what it says on the tin. Somewhat different to January's offering All of Us Strangers which I also really enjoyed even if some of the deeper messages were missed at the time.
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Post by yateleysaint on Feb 15, 2024 9:43:31 GMT
The Iron Claw (Cinema): I knew next to nothing about this film before I went. I'd seen a trailer for it on the Monday before at a showing of Argylle. I'll be honest I wouldn't have gone based on the film's name - I'd have assumed another superhero film which I'm basically done with now I think. But the trailer looked decent, sort of like The Wrestler, The Fighter with a good nostalgic for the (80s) era and a decent soundtrack of 80s tunes. This is the story of the Von Erich wrestling family. Von Erich senior is a pro wrestler that hasn't been very happy with how his career went, the film starts with one of his matches and then moves forward in time to his young grown up sons. One of them is Zac Efron and he is completely transformed. He's a fit lad obviously, but in this he's really bulked up and looks more Arnie than Efron. It's also got Jeremy Allen White who's the chef in The Bear (I've not watched that but I hear good things - anyone recommend?). Basically as the film develops it's very clear that the dad is a major influence on his sons and is basically forcing them into a life of wrestling or sports - One son (White) is in the US Olympic squad, one is a wrestler and the younger two are still finding their way - one a musician, but that isn't supported by the father. What unfolds is a story of relationships, families, love, coercion, control, fear, dedication but mostly tragedy - some of you may already be familiar with the Von Erich's but I wasn't (although having spent a lot of time afterwards googling the true story - I did recognise one of them) and had I been I probably wouldn't have chosen to watch this on a Saturday night out dinner and a movie type night. I'm so glad we went though. Both my wife and I were blown away. The whole cast is brilliant but you have to call out Zac Efron who is fecking brilliant and now possibly even more annoying because he can sing, dance, act, is very physically fit and handsome - you want to hate him, but it's impossible. The film doesn't shy away from the fact that Wrestling is pre-arranged, but it also shows the brutality of it, you really get thrown about and hurt, bady! As I say I spent a lot of the following morning reading about the Von Erich family. There's actually loads missing from the film, but that's the nature of a 2hr film. There story is actually interesting enough for a 12 part series. 9/10 The Bear is great but I haven’t seen season two yet.
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Post by jickster on Mar 20, 2024 15:42:04 GMT
Watched Dune Part 2 yesterday. Loved it. A lot to take in (I read the book nearly 30 years ago and it really helped at times), but these big 'unfilmable' projects, much like Lord of the Rings, are always going to leave some fans disappointed for not doing justice to the source material in some way. Given that undertaking, I think Villeneuve has done as good a job as anyone possibly could have done. It looks stunning and although there is a lot of plot and lore to get through it is never dull and rips along. Great to have a big, serious sci-fi that isn't full of wisecracks like the infinite comic book movies that come along every 5 minutes. And for it to have been a commercial hit as well bodes well for the future.
Back in the day I tried starting the second book and hardly got anywhere with it, I understand that it is quite a departure in tone (and that the later books go completely off the rails, particularly after Herbert's son started writing them). I believe there are plans to film that now, I wonder how that will go but look forward to seeing it.
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Post by Willshakes. on Mar 20, 2024 17:01:39 GMT
I have prime aswell, aside from film's True Detective Series One is the BEST ACTING I have seen in 61 years ! Bold statement to make I know. Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson are IMMENSE ! I've watched McConaughey's oskar performance which was fabulous,in this he is is a TRUE STAR ! In True Detective he absoulutely shines. Over the years I've watched series one twice. I've just downloaded it on prime and will watch again. Of course we're all critics. “Having the critics praise you is like having the hangman say you’ve got a pretty neck.”
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Post by Mandochris on Mar 20, 2024 17:58:25 GMT
I've been watching Cheers recently. It's funny to see Woody Harrelson in that again. He was already very good. I shall check out True Detective.
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