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Post by Furry Frank The Combat Wombat on Jun 10, 2024 10:40:05 GMT
I don’t like G’n’R, I’m afraid - by extension, VR are not my bag. This did remind me of the genius of Slash though - unarguable brilliant talent. 299 loves G’n’R and we have had excellent moments in the car with her turning up the radio when they came on and me winding up the windows and shrinking in my seat… It’s real marmite stuff… As for your comment on music - it's always there, for every big or small moment in your life and we can all disagree on what's good and what's not in music and it matters not a jot because it's personal and it's what matters to the individual that counts - well that sums up this thread for me. What an awesome quote - you should put that on a T-shirt or the sleeve of a book. We're somewhat the opposite in Jezza Towers... I wouldn't say I love GnR, but I quite liked them bitd, but the Mrs detests them with a passion... (mainly she detest Axl) so we're not allowed to listen to it, although I sometimes sneak a bit on when she's not looking to wind her up. She gets her revenge with Abba.. Quite right, we all have our tastes and preferences that largely come from that 15-20 window of our lives and other specific memories, so (in the same way as comedy) it's all subjective and there's no right answer... although sometimes there are wrong answers, but that's just a personal opinion. Apart from Dancing Queen, anyone who plays that is a c*n* and can feck off. |
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Post by threehundred on Jun 10, 2024 10:43:06 GMT
I get what you guys are on about. Some of the greatest moments of my life have come at concerts. That tingle down the spine that tells you this is special and you never forget it. I got it when visiting Villa San Michele on Capri. I walked out into the garden on a sunny September afternoon and the view back across the Bay of Naples with Vesuvius looming over all those millions of people took my breath away. I had to sit down. I felt as though I'd been punched hard. I've seen people at the Uffizi in Florence, walking like zombies, entranced by the beauty that surrounds them. Music does that to me too. It happened when The Doors played "Riders on the Storm" and when Runrig did "Rise and Fall/Elegy" in front of a video of the Battle of Normandy. BITD, before Portsmouth Guildhall became one of the Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra's "season" venues, the classical concerts at Pompey were all touring orchestras. We used to get plenty of foreign orchestras, especially from the Eastern Block who were desperate for "hard" currency. Saw many special performances but when James Loughran and the Halle Orchestra played the "Planets" which I knew well I went all weak and tingly. More surprising was the Helsinki Philharmonic who, naturally, played a lot of Sibelius. The concert was great but what was nice is that it is custom for "visiting orchestras" to play an encore. (The BSO are off like a shot, quick pint across the road then back on the bus home!) After the usual several curtain calls for the conductor, he suddenly climbed back on the podium and the whole orchestra (well, probably not the harpist) stood, turned to face us and played "Finlandia" from memory. I'd never heard it before and it still moves me today. Then I was transfixed by the pride and passion with which they played their unofficial national anthem and at the end the whole auditorium rose clapping and cheering. Never seen anything like it (apart from the Last Night of the Proms on telly). It was a fantastic moment in my life. At university many years ago, I found my housemate crying and asked him what was wrong. Nothing. He’d been listening to Nick Drake. I remember finding my Mum crying in the kitchen one evening as a child. She was listening to Elgar - the Dream of Gerontius. I sat next to her and wept. I’ve mentioned Song to the Moon before. I teared up the first time I heard that - it was being sung live. I well up whenever I hear it. Only music can do that. |
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Post by threehundred on Jun 10, 2024 10:45:36 GMT
I don’t like G’n’R, I’m afraid - by extension, VR are not my bag. This did remind me of the genius of Slash though - unarguable brilliant talent. 299 loves G’n’R and we have had excellent moments in the car with her turning up the radio when they came on and me winding up the windows and shrinking in my seat… It’s real marmite stuff… As for your comment on music - it's always there, for every big or small moment in your life and we can all disagree on what's good and what's not in music and it matters not a jot because it's personal and it's what matters to the individual that counts - well that sums up this thread for me. What an awesome quote - you should put that on a T-shirt or the sleeve of a book. We're somewhat the opposite in Jezza Towers... I wouldn't say I love GnR, but I quite liked them bitd, but the Mrs detests them with a passion... (mainly she detest Axl) so we're not allowed to listen to it, although I sometimes sneak a bit on when she's not looking to wind her up. She gets her revenge with Abba.. Quite right, we all have our tastes and preferences that largely come from that 15-20 window of our lives and other specific memories, so (in the same way as comedy) it's all subjective and there's no right answer... although sometimes there are wrong answers, but that's just a personal opinion. Apart from Dancing Queen, anyone who plays that is a c*n* and can feck off. I’m totally with Mrs J… gimme, gimme, gimme ABBA over GnR any day of the week. ABBA voyage last year was sensational. |
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Post by Furry Frank The Combat Wombat on Jun 10, 2024 10:52:26 GMT
We're somewhat the opposite in Jezza Towers... I wouldn't say I love GnR, but I quite liked them bitd, but the Mrs detests them with a passion... (mainly she detest Axl) so we're not allowed to listen to it, although I sometimes sneak a bit on when she's not looking to wind her up. She gets her revenge with Abba.. Quite right, we all have our tastes and preferences that largely come from that 15-20 window of our lives and other specific memories, so (in the same way as comedy) it's all subjective and there's no right answer... although sometimes there are wrong answers, but that's just a personal opinion. Apart from Dancing Queen, anyone who plays that is a c*n* and can feck off. I’m totally with Mrs J… gimme, gimme, gimme ABBA over GnR any day of the week. ABBA voyage last year was sensational. I respect that Abba had musical talent, it's just that song. It should be banned.* *As you say, it's all about memories, and this goes back to my student days. 1 year our flat was above a group of girls who'd come home pissed literally every Fri night and put that on repeat.. it was torture. Eventually my mate Ron, who is one of the most zen dudes you'd ever meet, snapped and ran downstairs and beat on their door with a baseball bat, screaming "turn it off, turn it off" |
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Jun 10, 2024 11:40:16 GMT
See ABBA are my musical hate - and yet again I know they're hugely popular and write wonderful pop songs. I just can't stand them. I think it stems from rainy weekend days when all I wanted to do would be to go out and play football or ride my bike but I wasn't allowed because of the rain. Mum would be doing the housework and ABBA would be ringing out around the house and it got right under my skin. At my 40tha few years ago I had a nu ABBA rule and told the DJ he'd get docked pay if any crept in.
As for not liking Axl Rose - I can understand that, but that's something I've never really understood about any art form, not liking it because of a person. If the music/film/artwork/book is good I don't let my feelings about a person impact how I feel about.
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Post by THE BEAST on Jun 10, 2024 17:22:29 GMT
See ABBA are my musical hate - and yet again I know they're hugely popular and write wonderful pop songs. I just can't stand them. I think it stems from rainy weekend days when all I wanted to do would be to go out and play football or ride my bike but I wasn't allowed because of the rain. Mum would be doing the housework and ABBA would be ringing out around the house and it got right under my skin. At my 40tha few years ago I had a nu ABBA rule and told the DJ he'd get docked pay if any crept in. As for not liking Axl Rose - I can understand that, but that's something I've never really understood about any art form, not liking it because of a person. If the music/film/artwork/book is good I don't let my feelings about a person impact how I feel about. I know what you mean, but on the other hand, however musically talented he was, I cannot abide Michael Jackson music being played. I think every penny he ever earned should be taken back and everyone should openly acknowledge what a child molesting feck he was |
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Jun 10, 2024 18:04:51 GMT
See ABBA are my musical hate - and yet again I know they're hugely popular and write wonderful pop songs. I just can't stand them. I think it stems from rainy weekend days when all I wanted to do would be to go out and play football or ride my bike but I wasn't allowed because of the rain. Mum would be doing the housework and ABBA would be ringing out around the house and it got right under my skin. At my 40tha few years ago I had a nu ABBA rule and told the DJ he'd get docked pay if any crept in. As for not liking Axl Rose - I can understand that, but that's something I've never really understood about any art form, not liking it because of a person. If the music/film/artwork/book is good I don't let my feelings about a person impact how I feel about. I know what you mean, but on the other hand, however musically talented he was, I cannot abide Michael Jackson music being played. I think every penny he ever earned should be taken back and everyone should openly acknowledge what a child molesting feck he was I agree with you here. I love Michael Jackson's music but it is ruined for me now. Same with the Lost Prophets, their debut album was incredible but I can't listen to that anymore of course. I never had the issue with Gary Glitter because he's always been shite to me. The tricky one for me is Elvis, I still love Elvis, I went to Graceland this year, but I'm really uncomfortable with his relationship with Priscilla. All of that said Axl Rose and (for me Chris Martin* or Benerdict Cumberbach from the acting world) haven't committed crimes and so I don't let their personalities impact how I react to their music/ films. *I just don't like Coldplay because they're shite (IMO) |
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Post by OneBeat on Jun 10, 2024 18:25:33 GMT
I know what you mean, but on the other hand, however musically talented he was, I cannot abide Michael Jackson music being played. I think every penny he ever earned should be taken back and everyone should openly acknowledge what a child molesting feck he was I agree with you here. I love Michael Jackson's music but it is ruined for me now. Same with the Lost Prophets, their debut album was incredible but I can't listen to that anymore of course. I never had the issue with Gary Glitter because he's always been shite to me. The tricky one for me is Elvis, I still love Elvis, I went to Graceland this year, but I'm really uncomfortable with his relationship with Priscilla. All of that said Axl Rose and (for me Chris Martin* or Benerdict Cumberbach from the acting world) haven't committed crimes and so I don't let their personalities impact how I react to their music/ films. *I just don't like Coldplay because they're shite (IMO) One of the first pop stars I ever liked, as a 6 year old was Gary Glitter. When punk came along there were several covers of his songs. Now though, I have taken his greatest hits album out of my collection and banished it to the loft. More depressing is that I now can’t bring myself to listen to Bad Brains, who I love, because of their homophobic song. |
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Jun 10, 2024 18:43:20 GMT
I agree with you here. I love Michael Jackson's music but it is ruined for me now. Same with the Lost Prophets, their debut album was incredible but I can't listen to that anymore of course. I never had the issue with Gary Glitter because he's always been shite to me. The tricky one for me is Elvis, I still love Elvis, I went to Graceland this year, but I'm really uncomfortable with his relationship with Priscilla. All of that said Axl Rose and (for me Chris Martin* or Benerdict Cumberbach from the acting world) haven't committed crimes and so I don't let their personalities impact how I react to their music/ films. *I just don't like Coldplay because they're shite (IMO) One of the first pop stars I ever liked, as a 6 year old was Gary Glitter. When punk came along there were several covers of his songs. Now though, I have taken his greatest hits album out of my collection and banished it to the loft. More depressing is that I now can’t bring myself to listen to Bad Brains, who I love, because of their homophobic song. My lost prophets albums got thrown out. I did a few of those clear the house of clutter things during covid and put books, dvds and cds outside for people to take if they wanted them. I found two lost prophets albums in there and just went straight to the bin with those. The reason I don't like Axl Rose is because of the song One in a Million, which is racist and homophobic. The rest of the band tried to stop it but Axl holds (held?) the power in the band. He does appear to have learnt from the reaction it got and doesn't seem to hold such views anymore and it's difficult to judge a man for the views he held as a barely grown boy, but it's still something I struggle with from Axl. |
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Jun 11, 2024 6:25:47 GMT
Day two of collaboration, spin offs and solo projects. Today is a genuine supergroup, the coming together of three (four really) of the biggest bands on the planet for one terrific album, and thankfully some live shows - one of which I got to see.
Again I'm sure people will have heard of them and may even know this song but maybe not too. Today we're talking Them Crooked Vultures. In 2009 Josh Homme (Queens of the Stone Age), John Paul Jones (Led Zeppelin) and Dave Grohl (Nirvana and Foo Fighters) released the album of the same name and every track is a winner IMO. Grohl had worked with QOTSA during a hiatus from Foo Fighters before, going back to the drums that he'd player for Nirvana and Foo Fighters first album, on which he plays all instruments. In TCV he returned to drums. Homme is the front man and guitarist and of course JPJ is on Bass.
The coolest thing about TCV was when they toured they played really small venues and so there was a great chance ro get up close to some massive stars in venues you'd never expect. We saw them play Portsmouth Guildhall. And they were incredible. Grohl is an incredible drummer, he's so good it's well known that Taylor Hawkins (RIP) was intimidated at the very idea of auditioning for Foo Fighters - the pair became firm friends until Taylor's death a couple of years ago and even switched rolls in Foo Fighters live shows for a song or two on a regular basis. Homme is, like Grohl one of the last remaining genuine rock n roll front men, he has a stage presence and craft that few have. JPJ is everything you want from a bassists, cool and calm, a reassuring presence that has delivered some of the great bass runs in rock history such as Black Dog and Ramble On. On tour the sound was filled out with other musicians too.
This is Dead End Friends
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Post by threehundred on Jun 11, 2024 7:15:25 GMT
I’m beginning to think the theme this week is 299 - this is straight out of her record collection… 😉
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Jun 11, 2024 7:35:41 GMT
I’m beginning to think the theme this week is 299 - this is straight out of her record collection… 😉 SOunds like 299 is a keeper, good job you're fixing that up this weekend |
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Post by Frankfurt Saint on Jun 12, 2024 9:08:47 GMT
I don’t like G’n’R, I’m afraid - by extension, VR are not my bag. This did remind me of the genius of Slash though - unarguable brilliant talent. 299 loves G’n’R and we have had excellent moments in the car with her turning up the radio when they came on and me winding up the windows and shrinking in my seat… It’s real marmite stuff… As for your comment on music - it's always there, for every big or small moment in your life and we can all disagree on what's good and what's not in music and it matters not a jot because it's personal and it's what matters to the individual that counts - well that sums up this thread for me. What an awesome quote - you should put that on a T-shirt or the sleeve of a book. We're somewhat the opposite in Jezza Towers... I wouldn't say I love GnR, but I quite liked them bitd, but the Mrs detests them with a passion... (mainly she detest Axl) so we're not allowed to listen to it, although I sometimes sneak a bit on when she's not looking to wind her up. She gets her revenge with Abba.. Quite right, we all have our tastes and preferences that largely come from that 15-20 window of our lives and other specific memories, so (in the same way as comedy) it's all subjective and there's no right answer... although sometimes there are wrong answers, but that's just a personal opinion. Apart from Dancing Queen, anyone who plays that is a c*n* and can feck off. I love ABBA but I am a fauxmosexual (as SF73 memorably once put it). |
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Jun 12, 2024 12:03:25 GMT
Late today - busy busy which means I'll probably be brief here... And the crowd goes wild!
Today I thought I'd go for a solo project and it's one of the best voices in Heavy Metal Serj Tankian. Serj is the lead singer for System of a Down and this song is from his first solo album, Elect the Dead, released in 2007. This song was a massive earworm for me at the time and since I came up with this theme for the week it's become so again and so I have to get it out!
Empty Walls was the first single from the album, it's cascading in it's sound, sung with passion and skill and feels like a heavy metal operatic crossover. I've seen SoaD once and Serj twice - I love SoaD but preferred Serj's solo shows (ably backed by his band The Flying C u n t s of Chaos - what a name!).
I'm not convinced this will go down well here - but I fecking love it so here it is
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Jun 13, 2024 16:45:30 GMT
Day 4, a collaboration
The other day we were talking about people we don't like and it not impacting how i feel about their art... Well here's a prime example. Roger Daltry has IMO shown himself to be a proper bellend in recent years, but I love The Who and I loved this collaboration with former Dr Feelgood Guitarist Wilko Johnson from 2014.
They did a whole album and I had it on regular rotation for a year or so. Wilco had just been diagnosed with pancreatic cancer when this was released and so it was widely thought it would be his final act, he managed to fight on for some time after however.
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