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Post by stsaint on Aug 29, 2024 9:47:26 GMT
If we got him in with the current team, it'd be madness given the no of LB's we have... the only scenario it makes sense is if KWP is on his way out (but even then, why a LB not a RB?) But our current LB's consist of Taylor, who I would class as a solid back up and then Manning who is a liability and Larios who clearly isn't ready. Surely we have more RB options with KWP and Sugawara?! |
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Post by Furry Frank The Combat Wombat on Aug 29, 2024 9:54:09 GMT
What do we think happens with the last two days approaching - Ramsdale obviously - but let's use the ol' Onebeat 'not until it's on the OS - New attacker - not sure what flavour but it feels like we're in for a RW come ST - I also think we'll do very late deals for Wee Man and... I think JWP is coming home personally, just a feeling but there's enough noise and I think there's only one club that would take him. RM says we're well stacked in his position, but we also know that he does improve on Aribo, Smallbone and Fernandes, Les, Dibling are all young so I think JWP and Lallana would really help Out - Seems RM is chucking ABK in the shop window and that's a shame because he showed last night he's head and shoulders above the two new CBs and I reckon it's probably fair to say he's better than Jack and probably THB right now for the PL. - Tall Paul - we'll take whatever is offered as the window shuts - If JWP does come in I wonder if we might look to shift Aribo on - he's probably got market value and I like him but I don't know that he's enough at this level. - Larios, Edozie loans - Larios because he really needs to play and is behind KWP, Taylor and probably Manning (at the moment). Edozie because he needs a good (Tella style) loan to a good Championship club - he's ok at that level but needs to grow into it and make better decisions Possible curveball - KWP leaves but I hope not Seems a fair summary, we're definitely looking for an AM/ST - Aboukhal/Cornet/Fellows/Maria/Alberto offers all out there, allegedly, so you think something will land, but will it be and AM and a ST? JWP is an odd one, sure I can see the benefit, but we're overstocked at 8 so as you imply surely that means someone has to go as we've already got too big a squad. On Sat's evidence, maybe a loan out for big Willy? ABK is one he really should try to reintegrate, he's definitely better than most of our other options, but if he doesn't want to be here.. if we can't sell him I'd propose a loan out for Wood who's clearly not good enough at the moment. Wee man, who knows? Neither him nor Newcastle seem to want to back down. |
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Post by Furry Frank The Combat Wombat on Aug 29, 2024 9:58:55 GMT
If we got him in with the current team, it'd be madness given the no of LB's we have... the only scenario it makes sense is if KWP is on his way out (but even then, why a LB not a RB?) But our current LB's consist of Taylor, who I would class as a solid back up and then Manning who is a liability and Larios who clearly isn't ready. Surely we have more RB options with KWP and Sugawara?! Agree it might be nice, but it doesn't seem a prime priority... unless we have more money than we thought we did. If he does come in then surely both Larios and Manning have to go one way or another. |
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Post by theallseeingeye on Aug 29, 2024 10:01:55 GMT
All very exciting....
Ramsdale would be huge and I'd LOVE JWP back, I can see this happening too...
I thought Archer, Fernandes, Dibbs. Les looked very good.. so not as stressed about a striker as a few of you, I think we do have goals in us (soon).. lala was quite emotional and the way he played, talked and sorted us out was HUGE! I think he could be important..
I think we are shaping up very well..... BUT.... BUT..... I am a bit worried about our spending.
I can;t help feel a bit sorry for Alex Mc and Baz.... surely we can't have 3 keepers thinking they are No1?
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Post by choixkoix on Aug 29, 2024 10:07:50 GMT
I think JWP and his agent have been ringing around the entire PL. Both they and the media are publicly predicting a story that I'm not sure has as much substance. Russ denied as much and said we're well-stacked in central midfield now.
It makes sense in that a) he's an immediate bit of experience and leadership in a quite young squad and b) we surely will want him back some day as a future coach, academy manager or something.
But even on a loan its a big wage to absorb when I reckon we've gone quite deep on the finances already. Also he's a relatively defensive midfield option (we're lighter at AMC really) and he's going to leave Fernandes/Lesley/Aribo/Smallbone, possibly Dibling too .. fight for one midfield spot.
That said, we havent looked like we have a corner or free kick taker. Still, seems financially a little needlessly excessive.
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Post by earlscourtsaint on Aug 29, 2024 10:27:02 GMT
JWP is better than Smallbone & Aribo and therefore if available and affordable we should absolutely go or it, and either loan the other two out or sell - harsh I know, but that's the reality, they were great in the Champ, but are not the level we need to compete in the Prem.
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Post by ivangolac on Aug 29, 2024 10:31:19 GMT
We have to stop worrying what Smallbone or Bazunu will ‘think’. Add starters, then see if they are capable of raising their games.
JWP is a huge upgrade on Smallbone. As a player, leader and goal threat. I’d sit with ABK and ask ‘are you up for this?’
Definitely keep Edozie, I think he’s looking pretty good.
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Post by Sir B3na1i on Aug 29, 2024 10:52:02 GMT
We have to stop worrying what Smallbone or Bazunu will ‘think’. Add starters, then see if they are capable of raising their games. JWP is a huge upgrade on Smallbone. As a player, leader and goal threat. I’d sit with ABK and ask ‘are you up for this?’ Definitely keep Edozie, I think he’s looking pretty good. Agree, apart from Edozie who I think needs a loan as he's not going to develop getting short stints from the bench he needs to be a regular starter and we have Archer, BBD, Armstrong, SAA and a new attacker likely. I reckon he becomes 5th or 6th choice for 2 or 3 spots |
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Post by threehundred on Aug 29, 2024 11:38:54 GMT
How long before people on here are saying he’s crap and making up silly nicknames for him? Good point. I’d better start workshopping. I was thinking of something along the lines of Norman Wisdom (“Mr Ramsdale! Mr Ramsdale!”) but that’s a bit of a stretch. Smallbone is lucky I can’t come up with anything for him. Slowbone, Shitbone, Nobackbone, nothing really works. At least we’ve finally got rid of that Argentina international and can look forward to many more years of Basingstoke’s finest failing to realise he’s in acres of space before passing backwards. Wasn’t there also supposed to be a CNM sighting tonight? That was very useful thinking. At least we’ve started doing medicals now. The Crossbar was a gift… it was never going to happen, just because of that. The best I’ve got is Ramalamadingdong and, frankly, that’s pretty terrible. |
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Post by Furry Frank The Combat Wombat on Aug 29, 2024 12:19:42 GMT
We have to stop worrying what Smallbone or Bazunu will ‘think’. Add starters, then see if they are capable of raising their games. JWP is a huge upgrade on Smallbone. As a player, leader and goal threat. I’d sit with ABK and ask ‘are you up for this?’ Definitely keep Edozie, I think he’s looking pretty good. On some level I agree with you, and we do need better players to survive, but not 100%. We've seen the effects of a squad with a lot of disillusioned player kicking about the dressing room, and it didn't work out well for us. RM, for all his tactical faults, has done a good job in improving the morale so we do have to be mindful that when fighting an uphill battle vs much better teams on paper, squad cohesion is the one card we have to play. Having said that, sure get JWP in if we can afford him, but try and get Smallbone out on loan. |
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Post by ivangolac on Aug 29, 2024 12:50:43 GMT
We have to stop worrying what Smallbone or Bazunu will ‘think’. Add starters, then see if they are capable of raising their games. JWP is a huge upgrade on Smallbone. As a player, leader and goal threat. I’d sit with ABK and ask ‘are you up for this?’ Definitely keep Edozie, I think he’s looking pretty good. On some level I agree with you, and we do need better players to survive, but not 100%. We've seen the effects of a squad with a lot of disillusioned player kicking about the dressing room, and it didn't work out well for us. RM, for all his tactical faults, has done a good job in improving the morale so we do have to be mindful that when fighting an uphill battle vs much better teams on paper, squad cohesion is the one card we have to play. Having said that, sure get JWP in if we can afford him, but try and get Smallbone out on loan. Wise man once said to me “no-one is disillusioned when you’re winning”. We need starters, let’s see whether those replaced deserve your support |
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Post by Furry Frank The Combat Wombat on Aug 29, 2024 13:18:23 GMT
On some level I agree with you, and we do need better players to survive, but not 100%. We've seen the effects of a squad with a lot of disillusioned player kicking about the dressing room, and it didn't work out well for us. RM, for all his tactical faults, has done a good job in improving the morale so we do have to be mindful that when fighting an uphill battle vs much better teams on paper, squad cohesion is the one card we have to play. Having said that, sure get JWP in if we can afford him, but try and get Smallbone out on loan. Wise man once said to me “no-one is disillusioned when you’re winning”. We need starters, let’s see whether those replaced deserve your support Fair point, but suspect we won't be winning much even if we do get every one we want... the only question is can we win 10ish? For that, we need every advantage we can get, including both better players and a happy squad. |
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Post by Frankfurt Saint on Aug 29, 2024 13:31:52 GMT
Good point. I’d better start workshopping. I was thinking of something along the lines of Norman Wisdom (“Mr Ramsdale! Mr Ramsdale!”) but that’s a bit of a stretch. Smallbone is lucky I can’t come up with anything for him. Slowbone, Shitbone, Nobackbone, nothing really works. At least we’ve finally got rid of that Argentina international and can look forward to many more years of Basingstoke’s finest failing to realise he’s in acres of space before passing backwards. Wasn’t there also supposed to be a CNM sighting tonight? That was very useful thinking. At least we’ve started doing medicals now. Forget all that, aren’t you supposed to be choosing the music this week? Am I?! Oh shit! BRB… |
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Post by Frankfurt Saint on Aug 29, 2024 13:34:08 GMT
Hopefully the end of ‘scattergun 24’ and actually someone ready to start. A huge upgrade on Baz/Mc. Whilst not the top level, he is safely in the middle level. In our relegation season, before Raya came along. Ranked 10 in shots stopped at 71% and had a total season XG of -1 goal suggesting consistency if not brilliance. Again ranked 10. Well documented Bazunu stats were 52% saved and -21 goals XG. Statistically we would have stayed up if that Ramsdale was in goal. Exactly - he’s not a world beater but he’s a solid PL keeper with plenty of experience at the top level. That’s just what we need. He’ll make mistakes just like anyone else but should be much more solid than what we’ve been used to. |
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Post by Frankfurt Saint on Aug 29, 2024 13:40:43 GMT
OMG this would make my summer! He can play left wing back but I’d say he’s more of a left midfielder. He’s never been lightning quick but he can cross, dribble, take set pieces and score goals (about 1 in 6 for Eintracht Frankfurt, which is a good return for a wide player). He must be getting on a bit now but I’ll be keeping everything crossed for this one as I think HCDAJFU. He did have to leave the Euros early after getting injured but he was very consistent a while back and his left foot is to die for. Again, like Ramsdale, he’s a much higher calibre of player than we currently have available in that position. |
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